Suisei no Gargantia 11

Suisei no Gargantia

Earth sure has made someone look manly.

Suisei no Gargantia

And wow, look who else is back too!

Not exactly the developments I’m hoping for from this series, after the whole “Hideauze = trans-squid humans” development. Instead of moving directly to that, things swing back to a conflict of “what it means to be human” and the merits of utility-based totalitarian democracy(?) vs the normal liberal democracy. Yeah, I’m probably using half the terms wrong in the last sentence, but I didn’t expect to need a PolSci degree to discuss this show!

In short, this is truly an Urobuchi show in the end. Whether you like it or not.

Suisei no Gargantia

End card by 加茂

11 Comments

  1. Mohammedius Said,

    June 17, 2013 @ 7:54 pm

    Pretty disappointed by this development

  2. Dakkar Said,

    June 17, 2013 @ 9:31 pm

    The usual “not dead until we see the body” becomes “not alive until we see the body” here. Oh, and I expect a lot of “it’s useless to resist, my son” next episode.

    This plot development is logical, though. They’ve tackled inhumanity of squid people already, now it’s the turn of robolovers. It looks to me this show is not as much of squids vs mecha as it is squids & mecha vs humanity.

  3. ReddyRedWolf Said,

    June 17, 2013 @ 10:10 pm

    At this point we should realize two AIs are bluffing each other.

    Endemic disease? Please pass relevant data. (Checks on Ledo as he lived for months outside. Sounds fishy.) Kugel not showing his face inspires fear. Why isn’t a human who isn’t in suspended animation still active inside your cockpit.

    Define: Happiness? That is the Alliance propaganda definition. We’re not now in the Alliance are we? Heck I encouraged my pilot to be happy before we left. Take a four week shore leave and pick a girl to get laid. We found a bunch that cooperates for the happiness of the whole community. I’m made to ensure my pilot is a successful human being and I’m serving man. That is paradise for a machine like us. Your humans by what I’ve learned are not happy. In that they appear to have lost human dignity.

    For that matter I’ve been trying to reach the Alliance for months until I find out where in the middle of nowhere we are. And you have been maintaining radio silence? Why?

  4. Athos Said,

    June 17, 2013 @ 10:32 pm

    If Chamber dies for the ending it will be the saddest goddamn thing ever.

  5. Dakkar Said,

    June 18, 2013 @ 2:48 am

    Speaking of Chamber, it’s interesting to note that every time he introduced himself, he said that he’s “an interface system that supports and oversees the development of pilots”. Striker, on the other hand, defines herself as “the pilot support system”. The “development” part is clearly missing, which is understandable considering she’s an officer unit, yet it has to have implications.

    Chamber is both a weapon and a mentor, so it has to help Ledo adapt to the change of his circumstances, and, at the same time, has to be able to adapt himself to the changes in Ledo in order to provide proper guidance. That makes him both flexible and sensitive to the feedback from his pilot, and we could see on a number of occasions that he usually engages in conversation with Ledo and often changes his initial assessment based on Ledo’s opinion/arguments.
    Assuming that Striker is a pure combat unit and doesn’t have the same functionality, she should be much more rigid. Or you can say she’s more drone-like compared to a more human-like Chamber.

  6. Zzz... Said,

    June 18, 2013 @ 4:58 am

    Or it could be that a dead man can’t really undergo any more intellectual or character development.

    Yeah…convinced that Kugel’s been dead. Striker’s just following either Kugel’s last directive or the emergency protocols of the Alliance in regards to primitive cultures. That’s still considered pilot support right?

    Also got the impression that Striker’s probably damaged to some degree, maybe in the same event that killed Kugel, hence the need for an engineer able to repair black box tech and create new weaponry.

  7. Guiltysparkz Said,

    June 18, 2013 @ 11:44 am

    Would be fun if Kugel was somehow infected with squid mutations, Striker decided to kill him and push on her own agenda for Earth’s humanity by using him.
    I just hope that, if they explore the AI breaking the 3 laws and going rampant, they won’t botch it…

  8. Benigmatica Said,

    June 18, 2013 @ 9:55 pm

    @Guiltysparkz

    I’m thinking of Kugel being a corpse than a Hidauze, in which Striker would disinfect the cockpit without a second thought.

    Well then, let the major suffering begin next week!

  9. Ryugan Said,

    June 18, 2013 @ 11:16 pm

    “Endemic disease? Please pass relevant data” translation “i dont belive you nothing”

  10. Dakkar Said,

    June 19, 2013 @ 2:26 am

    @Ryugan
    Likely wrong. Kugel’s come from another side of the globe, so it’s completely feasible that he had been exposed to viruses Ledo’s never encountered. If there is a virus that is claimed to be dangerous to people from the Galactic Alliance, it’s Chamber’s direct responsibility to take all the necessary measures to ensure Ledo’s not infected or is properly treated. If, by chance, Ledo was infected by the same or a similar virus, but managed to form the immunity, then analyzing respective antibodies can help develop a medicine for Kugel.
    Basically, Chamber’s request looks like something straight out of the military protocol rather than him doubting Striker. Well, one doesn’t necessarily exclude the other, though.

  11. All Fiction Said,

    June 23, 2013 @ 4:04 am

    ” For that matter I’ve been trying to reach the Alliance for months until I find out where in the middle of nowhere we are. And you have been maintaining radio silence? Why?”

    The same reason we have “delivery” girls in mini-skirts/prostitutes. Suspension of belief to further plot. Just go with it.

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