Fate/Zero 01


Glad to see Rin’s still the same old even when she’s only six years old :P.

Nothing much I’d like to say about this episode otherwise, since it’s pretty much the exposition mostly. Introducing the characters got a little bit ridiculous too, especially when Kirei was given a primer to the Holy Grail War by his father and Tokiomi… who for some reason decided to orbit around him a few times as they talked about it. I really wondered what the fuck was that about.

Still, only five players on board at the end of the first episode, with another two more incoming. The look of surprise on Kiritsugu’s face when Saber was summoned was really appropriate lol.

The OP turned out surprisingly good too. Still… poor Sakura. Poor, poor girl ;_;


  1. Rei Said,

    October 2, 2011 @ 5:08 pm

    Got chills down my spine at the summoning in the last few minutes. Utterly epic stuff. Followed by the impressive OP – woo LiSA AB! it’s been a while. Really stunning animation by ufotable. Really pumped for this series. Yay, more Kajiura music!
    This series is going to bring back the Saber fangirl inside of me omg. Esp in the OP, just… Saber suit…. so hawt.

    Sakura ;A; so much more tragic than I thought. Hate her in the original series, but now regains some sympathy. Loli Rin, hnnnng.

    Kiritsugu is Ilya’s father? Had no idea looool. Explains why loli route is not an ending with Shirou.

  2. AozuAkazu Said,

    October 2, 2011 @ 5:22 pm

    I’m really only watching this for Rin. It was a pretty meh episode overall but hopefully it does get better.

  3. Fencedude Said,

    October 2, 2011 @ 6:31 pm

    Being Matou Sakura is suffering.

    I really sorta felt they undersold the bug rape aspect though. From people’s reactions I was expecting much worse.

  4. Kurogane Shiroikaze Said,

    October 2, 2011 @ 6:34 pm

    What? “undersold” it? Are you serious?

    How would you feel if I threw you in an underground dungeon pit FILLED entirely with all sorts and manner of bugs, poisonous and not, for 3 days?

    Now imagine that going on forever. Every day.

    And you’re still six years old.

    I’m not quite sure if they “undersold” that. I mean holy crap, getting to know shit like that right off the bat from the first episode onwards…. fucking Zouken.

  5. Fencedude Said,

    October 2, 2011 @ 6:44 pm

    I just meant that from the initial reactions, I was expecting the visuals to be far, far worse. Maybe its because I’m still recovering from the last episode of Blood-C, or maybe its because over the years I’ve actually seen Sakura bug-raped, but the actual scene in the show, while absolutely perfectly done, didn’t seem to rate quite the shock that its generated.

    Or maybe my perspective is completely skewed, quite possible. But then again, I thought I couldn’t be actively disturbed by animated gore anymore, and then I watched the end of Blood-C.

    And I have a feeling it would have been far more shocking had I not known, years and years ago, what Sakura went through.

  6. Fencedude Said,

    October 2, 2011 @ 6:49 pm

    Let me put it another way, we got day 4, I was expecting days 1~3.

  7. takashid Said,

    October 2, 2011 @ 6:53 pm

    I really hope they do a remake of the fate stay night anime following Heavens Feel. Its too complex a plot for a movie like they did with UBW, but i think it could be stretched a little to make into a season of anime. Hopefully Fate zero will get people more interested and incourage them to do something with the heavens Feel plot. Because even though i already knew what was coming, seeing Sakura like that… Fucking Zouken needs to die.

  8. Someone Said,

    October 2, 2011 @ 7:43 pm


    Recovering from laughter from the last episode of Blood C, right?

  9. Fencedude Said,

    October 2, 2011 @ 8:09 pm

    Laughter and, well, like I indicated, its been a long time since animated violence actually disturbed me, but that slaughter sequence was just too much. I actually started to feel uncomfortable with it.

    So its nice to know I can take the bug rape of a 6 year old with relative equanimity.

  10. Metalnsnakezero Said,

    October 2, 2011 @ 8:14 pm

    This was a pretty plot set up heavy episode, which is good since it is needed for the tone it going for. And poor Sakura. Poor, poor girl ;_;

  11. T.K. Said,

    October 2, 2011 @ 8:53 pm

    Great episode to jump start the Fate/ series again, the classic Kajiura music is just the perfect substitute for Kenji Kawai.

    I kinda thought the Sakura bug-rape could’ve been worse but just showing Zouken mouthing off alone would have had me sympathizing for the girl. That sick old fuck.

  12. Tiresias Said,

    October 2, 2011 @ 9:08 pm

    “Undersold?” Anything more graphic and that segment would’ve been instant-skip material, important dialog be damned.


  13. AidanAK47 Said,

    October 2, 2011 @ 11:30 pm

    Fencedude, you found the raving rabbits jumping around town eating people like corn on the cob disturbing but not a 6 year old girl doomed to horrific torture and rape for life.
    Are you stupid are just plain broken?

    The last episode of Blood-C was so over the top that I started asking myself if I was watching a comedy.

  14. Guthrie Said,

    October 2, 2011 @ 11:42 pm


    So not being disturbed at certain things makes you…stupid? Wow, I don’t know how you reached that conclusion. I had the same reaction. Sakura’s bit is…depressingly disturbing, while Blood-C’s zeal was more shockingly so and not nearly as subtle. You can have an academic debate about which is more disturbing all you like, but gut reactions are gut reactions.

  15. Kurogane Shiroikaze Said,

    October 2, 2011 @ 11:49 pm

    Despite my disagreement with Fencedude’s statements, I will agree that doesn’t mean he’s stupid. Calling him that is a bit out of bounds there, I would say.

    Well, broken might be applicable, but not stupid.

  16. Fencedude Said,

    October 3, 2011 @ 2:01 am

    I found what happened to Sakura shocking, when I first learned of it. In 2006.

    The scene in question would have to have been far more graphic for me to find it disturbing now. Like I said, I probably would have found a depiction of day 1 of her experience more shocking than day 4, which was her just lying there, dead to the world.

  17. AidanAK47 Said,

    October 3, 2011 @ 2:11 am

    Yeah, you guys are right. That was a bit too far. Sorry Fencedude

    I am just a bit on the defensive. I have been looking forward to this anime for a long time now so when I saw Blood-c and Fate/zero mentioned in the same sentence I jumped in to kill with whatever I can find.
    God knows if someone badmouths this show without good reason I will rip them a new one.

  18. Duke Zendar Said,

    October 3, 2011 @ 8:11 am

    If Sakura’s Father had so much as a clue about what she would be subjected to, he truly deserves what’s going to happen to him.

  19. Skribulous Said,

    October 3, 2011 @ 9:15 am

    >I really wondered what the fuck was that about.

    It’s a Mage ritual right out of Aleister Crowley’s works (which, from what I’ve read elsewhere, was the inspiration for Tokiomi). Say what you will about the storyline, but Gen Urobuchi does his homework.

  20. Kurogane Shiroikaze Said,

    October 3, 2011 @ 7:13 pm

    @Skribulous: Wait what? It was ACTUALLY something meaningful? Mind explaning a little more?

  21. The Hordesman Said,

    October 4, 2011 @ 3:40 am

    Haha, oh Urobuchi you! You and your HOLY FUCKING SHIT WHY OH GOD WHY OH GOD WHY

    -The Hordesman, going through a mental breakdown

  22. Skribulous Said,

    October 11, 2011 @ 4:01 pm


    It’s nothing that couldn’t be inferred already from watching the anime.

    To condense the whole mage theory ideas, Crowley wrote about the many forms of magick (yeah, he started out the whole “spelled with a k” for cool kids bit as well), such as high magick (theurgy and ceremonial rituals) and low magick (thaumaturgy and “tricks”). The idea was that to be a true magus one has to apply rituals into every bit of their daily lives.

    The whole scene with Tokiomi circling Kirei was closely parallel to a ritual outlined by Crowley to establish the master magus’ dominion, and a confirmation and investiture of Kirei as his apprentice, with Risei as sponsor and witness. There were some other bits from the actual ritual that was left out, but the main parts were there. The dialog during the exchange seems to add to the confusion, but according to Crowley the ritual itself can be performed in guise of other things (it was said he would do this during parties to “mark” prospective recruits to his chantry, with none of the guests all the wiser) so it does make sense that this was the reference Urobuchi was going for, and this would be the sort of thing Tokiomi would do.

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