Steins;Gate 12



In war, the innocents always suffer first. T_T

Herp derp, so the Okarin vs SERN plot finally starts now, with the dramatic killing of Mayushii as the first (and main) casualty. I knew Moeka wasn’t good news, but she sure made that sudden transition to villainess with a real bang.

Aside for the last 3 minutes, this episode was pretty standard fare. Kurisu and Okarin getting closer to each other, everyone having some fun time in the lab, the ridiculous science…

Seriously, I want to know how to compress 3.24TB of data in to 36 bytes myself. And how long it takes to transfer 3.24 TB of data from Japan to a server in Europe using an average private home Internet line. And how to run the LHC without the entire fucking facility noticing a 27km long particle accelerator powering up for no reason at all to zip a file. Not saying I’m nitpicking or anything, but as a geek… setups like this are fucking ridiculous even if entirely fictional, LOL.


  1. K_S_ Said,

    June 22, 2011 @ 9:42 pm

    And as the first PV implied, the main plot of Okarin timeleaping repeatedly just to save Mayuri starts from now. This also will result in Mayuri becoming the REAL heroine.

    Here the preview to next week’s ep:

  2. gecd Said,

    June 22, 2011 @ 9:54 pm

    And how to run the LHC without the entire fucking facility noticing a 27km long particle accelerator powering up for no reason at all to zip a file.
    there is answer for this
    they are not explained even in VN
    but still counted as spoiler

  3. ewok40k Said,

    June 22, 2011 @ 10:28 pm

    exactly my thoughts – and cry – when I’ve heard “she is not needed…”
    a “wham” episode on a Madoka 03 level…

  4. omo Said,

    June 22, 2011 @ 10:39 pm

    Actually the LHC is not like some household appliance that you turn “on” or “off.” Stuff does happen “differently” during an experiment versus when nothing is happening, but stuff is still going on all the time, etc. Itt’s not out of the question as far as access.

    The science fiction of the whole data compression thing makes sense to me. The concept is using a micro black hole (MBH) as a way to “compress” data, and somehow you are sending whatever the end result over the phone-microwave (to be named). The part they didn’t explain are:
    How is that data going to decompress/How do you get the data out of the MBH?

    But even so it is possible to explain this.

  5. Kurogane Shiroikaze Said,

    June 22, 2011 @ 10:48 pm

    @omo: Yes, I’d like to know the compression/encoding scheme that Kurisu is going to use. Unless she’s using some weird ass quantum encoding trick, it’s just not that possible to achieve a 9.89560465 × 10^10 encoding ratio.

  6. draggle Said,

    June 22, 2011 @ 11:15 pm

    Now the question is, does this prove that PSPACE = EXPSPACE? And the next question is, can we offload our computation into black holes too to prove that P = NP? Time flows differently in black holes… or we can go to parallel universes and use the entire lifetime of the universe to do our computation, or something. Maybe this is how CERN found Daru’s private key. :)

  7. ewok40k Said,

    June 22, 2011 @ 11:41 pm

    afaik they are using the LHC INSTEAD of the microwave now , so they are able to compress much more data

  8. Anonomyous Said,

    June 22, 2011 @ 11:49 pm

    Probably they are adapting the matter compression effects based on neutron stars which would be a step before black holes. Not exactly sure how they came to the compression ratio in this episode (if it has a RL basis)

  9. Athos Said,

    June 22, 2011 @ 11:56 pm

    *sigh* So what if she dies…

    Time travel show… fully functional time leap machine… Reading Steiner… Phone Microwave… pick your reset button.

    More importantly, THAT Okabe x Makise scene was probably THE most awkward slice-of-life romantic event since fucking Genshiken.

    I mean, it was BEAUTIFUL. I don’t know why that is, but watching two meta characters blushing and panicking gives me a kind of joy that I just can’t find anywhere else. I swear, I was laughing my ass off when Okabe freaks out, DROPS the bag, RUNS all the way to where Makise is standing and SLAMS his palm on Makise’s forehead, thus pulling the most embarrassing “do you have a fever” scene I have ever been made to witness.

    Words CANNOT express how much I’m gonna miss the comedy relief in this series now that they shifted to serious mode. I just hope the payoff is worth it. Even half of the enjoyment I’ve been getting will do.

  10. Azure Said,

    June 23, 2011 @ 12:19 am

    Shining Finger, the mole.
    I kind of want to see Suzuha attack the SERN guys with the Saber Future gadget thing.

  11. thecowgoesmoo Said,

    June 23, 2011 @ 12:24 am

    For the record, home 1 Gbps connections are not unheard of in Japan. 3.24 terabytes would take less than 7.5 hours assuming maximum throughput, though you’d need the proper networking equipment and solid state drives on both ends I’d think.

  12. Trugen Said,

    June 23, 2011 @ 3:43 am


    They use 64 connections in the visual novel to transfer the 3.24TB in about 45 seconds.

  13. omo Said,

    June 23, 2011 @ 5:59 am

    >> Unless she’s using some weird ass quantum encoding trick

    It basically is. A black hole compresses everything, even information. So they’re using the LHC as some kind of black box that can transform information.

    Fine. But it doesn’t explain how to extract the compressed information.

  14. Psycho Said,

    June 23, 2011 @ 12:08 pm

    Trugen Said, : “bla bla bla”

    Umm I think this is a bit spoiler but not a major one.

  15. Trugen Said,

    June 24, 2011 @ 12:18 am


    It’s not a spoiler at all, it’s just explaining how the data can be transferred to SERN. The anime has already past the point where the explain it in the visual novel too.


  16. Jan Said,

    June 24, 2011 @ 1:44 am

    No, black hole can’t compress information this way. Its enormous gravity basically destroys matter which is taken into it. Any “group” of particles, whether they are bosons (radiation, forces) or fermions (matter), is torn apart. Supposing that you can’t encode this information into e.g. 1 photon, there is no way information encoded in a group of particles is preserved.
    Of course, another problem is with extraction of anything behind Schwarzschild radius of the black hole…

  17. feal87 Said,

    June 24, 2011 @ 5:57 am

    Please guys, its a fricking anime. Just enjoy it, by myself I am more thinking about my Mayushi than about the compression. That by the way is impossible as “Jan” as already said, black holes supposedly (nobody tried) destroy materia as for what most scientists nowadays says.

    And anyway compression over the entropy is not possible, no matter the device.

  18. Kuro Said,

    June 24, 2011 @ 11:41 am

    Time for part time warrior to save everyone from Moeka’s grasp next episode!

  19. Inushinde Said,

    June 25, 2011 @ 8:38 am

    I can say that I called it at the beginning of the episode. Not Moeka doing the killing, oh no, but Mayushi dying. They wouldn’t go on a long winded spiel about how she’s the one holding the group together and keeping them sane if they weren’t planning on doing something with her.

    Still, what an ending for the first half.

  20. R Said,

    June 29, 2011 @ 12:51 pm

    You forgot the obvious one: they compress the data … but they don’t decompress it? WTF? Even if we explain the others away, that’s a pretty big plot hole right there.

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