Why do you like/hate Madoka Magica’s ending?

Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica

Praise be to Goddess Madoka!

Okay, since this is going to be inevitable later on in whatever post I make about Madoka’s finale comments’ section, I’m just going to open this up to the readers first and deal with it early.

Why do you like or hate Madoka Magica’s ending and what is your justification for your stance?

I would really like to see how the opinions are really divided amongst the viewers. For the time being, you can count me in the “like” camp, but I realize there are flaws in the ending.

P.S. I sincerely hope no one actually takes the religion jokes about Madoka that seriously.

90 Comments

  1. Azure Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 1:43 pm

    Because the ending was absolutely healing. Okay, not really.

  2. Myssa Rei Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 1:47 pm

    I liked it. While it was not perfect, it was as close to a happy ending as one might have thought possible coming from Gen Urobuchi. Some things remain unresolved (like Homura literally fighting until the end of existence as hinted by the after-credit scenes), but those are minor quibbles that more OCD watchers can worry about.

  3. Aikun2012 Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 1:49 pm

    Took it a while to sink in, but the ending satisfied me in the long run.

    Not only did it make sense, it gave Madoka’s name importance in the storyline. Quite frankly, SHAFT had many possible screw ups with the ending, but this is pretty good. I thought that Madoka’s wish was actually decent compared to the other outcomes (cuz seriously, I couldn’t come up with ANY likeable hypothesis’ before finishing the series).

    In the end, the conclusion made me happy and gave Madoka Magica the justice it deserved…

  4. maleficarium Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 1:55 pm

    ‘was about to write a long post about why I liked the ending but then I noticed something. Post-Madoka Homura has a bow. She traded away freaking Time Stop for a bow. Post-Madoka Homura sucks. This ending sucks. Now excuse me while I go watch once again Homura shooting missiles to Walpurgis Night.

  5. Avisch Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 1:57 pm

    “For the time being, you can count me in the “like” camp, but I realize there are flaws in the ending.”

    Pretty much this. I like the ending because it shows the happy yet bittersweet ending to a journey of despair. But I didn’t like the ending because to me it was a tone change from the last ten episodes. What I mean by that is that the first ten episodes were showing a grim world but with Madoka’s hope shining through. The ending demonstrates Madoka’s hope coming to fruition, but in a way that I feel was much too easy for her to accomplish.

    The presentation of Madoka “changing the laws of the universe” was interesting. If I had read the idea on paper, I wouldn’t have liked it (or hated it). But for some reason (that I can’t pinpoint yet) I ended up enjoying it far more than I thought.

    That said, while the ending sits awkward with me. I can safely say that I was thoroughly entertained otherwise.

  6. Marcomax Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 2:05 pm

    Might as well stop lurking and get in on this.

    I guess I’m in the “like” camp. Mainly because a few days ago I realized that the show was going to use a deus ex machina. I don’t really have a problem with that as long as its setup properly. Really whether you like the ending or not my ultimately depend on how you perceive the plot turn.

    As a side note, here’s something to think about. I both Fractale and Madoka Magica, you have a normal girl becoming a God-like entity in the final moments of the show. Were in Fractale this seems like a rushed development, in Madoka Magica the idea is easier to accept. Note that both these series are from the same season and are about the same length (11-12 episodes) This just goes to show the importance of execution. Or I could just be drawing lines where they don’t exist.

  7. CarVac Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 2:07 pm

    Merely two things bothered me about the ending.
    1. The music was occasionally uninspired.
    2. Madoka’s wish was almost exactly what I would have wished for in her place (except the ‘by my own hands’ part). Not bad, but a bit uninspired (same word as before, but I think it fits well in this context too).

    However, the execution of it was simply beautiful. The way they wrapped it up so that it wasn’t jarring or left questions unanswered, without seeming long-winded, was sheer perfection. Awesome animation, especially Homura vs. Walpurgisnacht.

    One concern I have is: Would it have had the same impact if they aired it uninterrupted (assuming identical animation and all)? Have my expectations warped my perceptions from the wait? Would it have been mood-whiplash-y if it had followed just a week after episode 10?

    Who knows, but I loved it.

  8. Eternith Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 2:09 pm

    The “emotional” part of the ending just flew straight past me along with a lot of the explanation of the “new universe”. I think I was just too busy trying to comprehend what was going on that I couldn’t establish an opinion on it.

    So for now, neutral. I’ll probably rewatch tomorrow after I get a clear head.

  9. CaptainBright Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 2:10 pm

    The ending came off somewhat expectable, where there was a need of a great sacrifice to balance the universe/ save humanity/ save people from fates worse than death/ whatever rubs your nipples.

    Of course, when you do not have much investment in the characters of the show, it comes off as a very normal ending. The guys bawwing their balls out there? You guys are weak.

    Nevertheless, S.E. Lain used kind of the same ending, and I wasn’t amused. Another kind of ending like this? Brouhaha….

    At least Bokurano smacked my face, saying that no matter what you do, other kinds of Cthulu will always wreck your shit. But not before you kill the previous one.

    P.S. : The religion aspect? Maybe I should have rephrased it as:

    THE ORDO-HERETICUS, UNDER HIS GREAT WILL, DECLARES HERESY UPON THIS FOUL SPAWN OF CHAOS! HERESY!! HERESY!!!!

  10. Algester Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 2:12 pm

    but one thing is certain it still leaves some bitter notes especially about homura did her wish gets fulfilled or will she repeat one more cycle with a different circumstance

  11. Rei Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 2:13 pm

    “Like” for now, but still piecing together and letting the ending settle into my brain because I just finished it. It was entertaining no less and the concept was amazing. But the ending seemed to be all different and @.@;; Moving from simple Puella Magi and Witches fight into God, Angel, Demons plane was like whoa, what?
    The stuff I loved was how well animated Homura’s entire final battle against the Witch was. Holy fricks that laugh is the creepiest thing I’ve ever heard. Her struggle and almost turned Grief Seed/Witch herself was ;A; and then Madoka showing up was obvious, but to throw this during the credits was brilliant.
    The real short end of the stick would be Sayaka and Madoka’s family, more her mother. THE POOR AWESOME MUM AHHHH ;A;

    Finally, the ribbon reminder give away – instant Nanoha.
    Also, the end with Kyubey latching onto Homura before that leap… looked damn weird =p

  12. Kherubim Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 2:15 pm

    It was probably the best way to prevent Grief Seed farming, I suppose, and at least it means that Puella Magi still exist…

    However, isn’t it sad, Sayaka?

  13. fnsna Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 2:17 pm

    I think Avisch correctly stated about my response to the ending. It was just a bit too optimistic compared to the past 10 episodes. Also, reading the endings of Saya no Uta (by Gen) on wikipedia, I was totally expecting a horror ending, and was surprised on how positive the series have became by the end.

    By no means it is a badly written ending or anything, but it just feels a bit disconnected with the overall downhill trend that was seen in the previous 10 episodes (+ ep 11).

    And yes, Homura was awesome when she was fighting against Walpurgis Night.
    And I also loled when QB was like “what are you doing, i don’t even” to madoka

  14. Arduc Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 2:19 pm

    The real question is if you’re going to seriously stretch this out to an entire week’s worth of posts, because you’re only a couple posts away from it right now.

  15. Zizhou Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 2:20 pm

    @maleficarium Personally, I liked the touch with the bow. While it’s not the raw power of stopping time, it’s probably equally effective against the despair-demon-things, while recalling Madoka’s weapon of choice. Also, if the ending was something like past the end of civilization, then the magical bow is always going to be around, while guns and explosives aren’t.

  16. AznCoffee Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 2:20 pm

    So now when magical girls get all grief’d, they disappear instead of turning into witches.
    And to replace the witches, we have curses. (monk guys with pixels on their faces)

    Like, sure she made it a better place, but she didn’t exactly FIX the whole “having to fight for all eternity” thing.

    But w/e, I liked the ending. Too bad Sayaka died for real/stayed dead (since she became a witch).

    And holyjesusfuckonastick, that green haired bitch and kamifag-kun. What the hell is up with that?

  17. FlyingFridge Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 2:24 pm

    Reluctant Like, partly because regardless of execution, it still left me feeling like that story was fulfilled, even if in a somewhat bland matter. Also partly because it leaves a significant amount of room for more series in the world of the Puella Magi. Which excites me.
    On the flip side, it was a rather large dump of new content (God’s and such) that I wasn’t prepared for at all, however awesome, still got me a little confused. Now that it’s set in, It does feel like it also sets up a new dimension for story progression.
    In the end, my biggest gripe is the way Madoka’s wish got granted felt flimsy. Her wish got granted because of Homura’s incessant time repetition, but it still annoys me that she was instantly granted goddess powers through doing not a whole lot.

    Logic and reason aside, I’m joining the Church of Madoka.

  18. Qwerty1 Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 2:25 pm

    I think people are misinterpreting some things. The final scene with Homura, people keep referring to it as a post apocalyptic scene or the end of existence etc. It’s just one of the barriers that the demons set up similar to witches. Just look at how the world transitions back to normal around the girls after the Madoka/Sayaka scene. They were in some sort of Barrier and when they defeated the demons the space dissolved. It’s just as likely that this hellscape Homura was in was a barrier.

    I actually think that the final scene is supposed to represent Homura’s “death”. If you consider how all of that energy is just bursting out of her and that the objects floating around in the energy have a serious “witch” vibe going for them it’s likely we’re seeing Homura using up all the energy she has sine she’s fighting alone and on the verge of becoming a witch.

    This is why she suddenly hears Madoka’s voice since her becoming a witch means she’s going to meet the Omni-Madoka and then disappear like all of the girls in the earlier montage. Madoka told her before disappearing that they would see each other again, and that is the point when they’re guaranteed to meet.

    It makes the ending even more bitter sweet if you think about it that way.

  19. qntiria Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 2:41 pm

    When I was waiting for Madoka 11 to torrent, I realised there was no other way to end this happily except for Madoka wishing something that will change the whole dynamic of witches and magical girls.

    So for a series where I could never guess what’ll happen next, the end left an unsatisfied, anti-climatic aftertaste.

    But it was a good end I guess, and something bittersweet, which suited this series just fine and is probably better than a fairytale ending.

    Although this -is- Gen Urobuchi, and seeing how the ending for Phantom~Requiem for Phantom~ turned out, it’s actually pretty good lol.

  20. Di Gi Kazune Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 2:44 pm

    Walpurgis Nacht = Mass magical girl death event!

    And why does Ms. Headgetsbittenoff get resurrected and not Sayaka x Kyoko. Can’t even remember her name. :P

  21. Tim Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 2:45 pm

    I would’ve liked it if it wasn’t so disappointing. The tonal shift aside, the ending had too much explanation and too little actual storytelling. QB’s whole spiel on the nature of wishes called for a certain suspension of belief – I was prepared for that, but Madoka’s mother blithely accepting her shifty-acting daughter running off into the middle of a storm without explanation just stretched it too far. The climax came too early in episode 12, as well – there was too little build up and the subsequent events lacked emotional resonance because it wasn’t initially apparent what had actually -happened-.

    In another anime, I’d let it go, but Madoka had been so strong in the storytelling department up until that point. It was just a let down.

  22. J Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 2:50 pm

    On whole, I liked it, but yes there were flaws.

    I don’t normally feel that dragging out is a good thing, but I feel they should have dwelled on Homura giving up a bit more. But that would come mostly at the expense of artillery screentime so I’m kind of torn about this specific point.

    Also I think it would have been better if Madoka’s ascension was more focused on Madoka and her thoughts, rather than spread out with the actual events of seeing random mahou shoujo.

    I guess I do kind of feel the victory wish was too easy.

    I regret that Madoka’s mom didn’t seem to remember more than she did. I think she could have kept more memories with the extra quality screentime she got.

    What I liked: Army of HOMU. Holy crap, she prepared for real this time–and it was awesome. Single-handedly putting Japan in debt? Entire divisions must have been court-martialed en masse for losing so much ordinance. Goddess Madoka. Archer Homura. Kyoko not needing a fork for cheesecake. And a decently happy ending that did not make me retcon it out of personal canon. As bittersweet as it was, this was pretty much as happy as it could have reasonably gotten.

    Random observations: Didn’t NQB8R feel a lot less malicious, even in ep 11? It was weird to me. Also, it does look like Homura can control the resets, she was actually going to physically shift her shield. And shed definitely did endure more than merely 5 iterations.

  23. spik Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 2:54 pm

    I’m not too sure about what I should feel about Madoka’s ending. On one hand it was a pretty well crafted bittersweet melodramatic ending which I usually love but on the other hand I cried more watching this week’s Anohana which is just- what the hell a slice of life makes me more emotional than the finale of a show designed entirely around jerking people’s emotions.

    Perhaps I should not have watched Anohana before watching Madoka perhaps I should marathon the entire thing rather than watching just the last two eps after a two week gap. Either way while I do acknowledge that Madoka’s one of the quality shows this season, I wouldn’t go so far as to call it timeless or revolutionary.

    Oh Madoka, you had all the ingredients for a timeless classic, an awesome cast, a riveting plot, and a badass soundtrack but you just lacked that je ne sais quoi for me. I usually love mahou shoujo stuff like Princess Tutu, Utena, CCS, especially when they start fucking with my heart but for you I just can’t get it up :(

  24. T.K. Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 3:10 pm

    I’m still trying to wrap my mind around this whole explosive ending, but I’ll say I LIKE it. The ending is perfectly in Gen Urobuchi’s are of expertise, but the law of universe realigning itself after the wish was too much for me.

    Three things that I really like however would be
    1) Implication that the dimension Madoka went to is the Purgatory (my own guess)
    2) Mahou Shoujo/Witches concept rewritten and is now replaced by Angels/Demons.
    3) Powerful female figures in the past are all kyubey’s doing.

    Overall it’s a breath of fresh air. Will be watching the blu-rays once all of it is released.
    (Sad but funny how Sayaka still ended up dying and NTR’d in a new universe. Poor girl)

  25. AznCoffee Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 3:15 pm

    @Di Gi Kazune: It’s because Sayaka turned into a witch. Mami (like Sayaka) only died.

    And in Madoka’s new world, witches don’t exist.

  26. lantiln Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 3:26 pm

    I won’t comment on the facts or nitpick at the ending. Just, I had to take a 10 minute timeout after finished for an emotional breakdown.

    That’s all.

  27. micchan Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 3:53 pm

    I liked the ending. Although I didn’t really expected it to be this ‘refreshing’ or ‘hopeful’, after all the depressing tones in the past 10 episodes. Madoka becomes God. At least it wasn’t something like Madoka turning into a Puella Magi and defeating Walpurgisnacht and then killing herself and Homura to end the cycle. I’m going to rewatch it again. It’s Good Friday and watching it seems ‘timely’.

    It’s also pretty interesting that they used real historical figures as samples of Magical Girls. It makes Kyuubey seem like the embodiment of evolution or somewhat the ‘higher being’. This anime’s airing prolly wanted some allusion to religion since it’s Holy Week, but I don’t see it as anything blasphemous. Putting the metaphors and symbolism aside, it still showed the benefit of being ‘reborn’ after all the despair people go through in their lives. For a story that has its plot swirling around depression and hopelessness, the ending was a 360-degree turn.

    But yeah, I would’ve wanted something more surprising. It’s like Madoka changed everything and that’s it. I still like the ending though, maybe I was just thinking too much about it that I wasn’t too satisfied. Or maybe because there were more sappy Homura scenes than kick-ass ones. Well anyway, it was worth the wait. :) Off to re-watch it and connect the dots once more..

  28. Di Gi Kazune Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 3:53 pm

    Then I want my Magical Shota then. Too much Magical Loli.

  29. Pafiume Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 4:50 pm

    From the beginning I figured Madoka’s wish would have to be some sort of desu ex machina that would just make everything okay. She kept worrying about it, so obviously it would be important, so… it seemed natural it would be the thing that would save everyone in the end. I also expected Madoka to become a witch, though, so we would see her form more clearly. But then there wouldn’t have been a real ending because Homura would just go back in time again.

    I wonder what her wishes were in the alternate realities… Cake..?

    I’m satisfied with the ending. I didn’t like it as I was watching it, but I appreciate it and it leaves me with a really warm and optimistic feeling. Perhaps that’s coming from it being so late, but. Whatever. As others have said, not the most imaginative of endings (in certain ways), but I did enjoy it.

    I’d love to see more magical girl designs. The few that Madoka saved looked awesome.

  30. ithekro Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 5:05 pm

    Beatrice, as a witch, would object to being wished away…and demand it be said in red text or better gold text.

  31. DocAstaroth Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 6:04 pm

    The end was okay. It remind me a little on the end of the Mistborn trilogy by Brandon Sanderson (One of the heroes becomes god and changes the Crapsack world into a more merciful one), but I think good and bad points were balanced:

    Good: Mahou Shoujo no longer become witches.
    Bad: Their existence is erased, when they die, so there is still a price to pay.

    Good: Homura found her hope again.
    Bad: She will now walk the earth until it ends.

    Also I liked to see the other Magical Girls, who was working to their death right now to save the world. I really liked the viking one. XDD

  32. FX102A Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 6:08 pm

    I am stuck right on the fence on this one, probably leaning towards the “like” not so much because I wanted this kind of ending, but because I expected such an ending (I did fear an extremely depressing ending so at least that was avoided).

    With so much depressing stuff in real life, I’m always willing to overlook corny-ness, disbelief and all those other things people complain about for happy endings. Madoka’s mother was one of my favourite side characters and I’m glad they gave her some screen time; so I was really sad when she forgot about her. I was kinda hoping for a hint at her being reborn into the family at a later time but oh well.

    All in all, a fitting end for the kind of show that it is and definetely one of the better shows of the season, yet its not the sort of show I’d want to watch again; hence the files have been erased from the universe that is my Hard Drive (kinda fitting).

  33. EvilDevil Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 7:06 pm

    I like it. Madoka sacrifices herself not just to save her family or friends, but everyone (and that is alot of people), that was always her nature. But her sacrifice doesnt mean that she fixes everything (one could say she had to compromise or otherwise the new reality would had been too foreign and weird from the last one), instead human nature is still human nature as there is still human suffering and conflicts no different from the last one but there is a new enemy causing curses on the world (which they are convenient to fix the entropy issue), but what she did was break the evil food chain that was haunting Puella Magis, so she rewrote the laws of the universe so despair wouldnt have any effect on entropy and Grief Seeds werent allowed to exist because their Soul Gems would fade before that ever happened, and Madoka being Madoka she would personally come and rescue any fallen girl and help them pass to the next world without regrets since she purifies their souls. So Madoka reformed the Puella Magi system, Incubators are not conniving a$$holes on this new reality (but they are still aliens) and while entropy is still a problem at least the solution to it wont be at the expense of the soul of little girls… It didnt magically solve everything (if it did, that would have been too much for me to tolerate) but it was believable enough for me to enjoy it.

  34. Metalnsnakezero Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 7:11 pm

    It was a bitter sweet ending but there no other way to end it like this. Madoka sacrifice her very existence so that non of the Mahou Shoujo suffer and the whole universe can keep going.

    Evil still existence in a form of manifest human emotions, so Mahou Shoujo like Homura will keep fighting for our safety.

  35. ms Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 7:40 pm

    I loved it. For me, her wish is perfectly understandable. As implied on the first few episodes, Madoka adores magical girl to the point she wish she could just be it without wishing something. For that, her wish wouldn’t be denying the concept of something she adores. Thus only removing the “despair” aspect out of the whole process while letting “wish” works the way it was.

    On the other hand, a wish that deny the whole magical girl system (“solve the entropy without magical girl” or “make the world that magical girls are not needed”) would cause the civilization up until now to collapse, because that means historical figures may no longer able to change anything within their generation without magic.

    Goddess stuff didn’t bother me as much when you considers what QB says: the Madoka cease being an existence and just become a higher being, a concept. When you look at it that way, the whole goddess thing becomes much less sudden. I also like the fact that they clear up all the hints they’ve been putting here and there right from before the anime actually airs, such as Homura’s bow, Madoka’s ribbon, Junko’s relation with Kazuko, etc.

    In the end, Madoka becomes a higher being, while she’s still a little girl inside. A beautiful, very satisfying ending. Too beautiful it’s almost disappointing. I loved it enough to pre-order all Blu-rays.

  36. Suning Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 7:43 pm

    wow so yeah madoka uses Majin buu attacks but instead of humans she aims on witch … been a time since i saw those Global Race/Type attack
    i liked the ending and i wanted to see even kyubey being affected so that’s what happened on future homura he knew everything but on madoka change of laws he knew nothing.

  37. Fadeway Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 8:19 pm

    Awesome ending to an awesome anime, and that imperialx explanation of the events cleared up what I didn’t understand about it. I am now a convert.

    Trying to find this image http://sadpanda.us/images/448386-36BP8RR.jpeg with a text of the “She died for your sins” sort, might just find out how to make those myself in the end.

  38. L Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 8:23 pm

    Consider me as the “super like” camp.
    Here’s one link I found out that explain a few (if not all) things about the ending.

    http://imperialx.wordpress.com/2011/04/22/madoka-doesnt-need-a-sequel-to-explain-itself/

  39. Mitch H. Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 8:40 pm

    I dub it “Transcendent Boddhisattva Madoka”. She refuses nirvana for your sins, and endlessly destroys her self for your salvation.

    I liked how the Walpurgisnacht’s core form was an iron wheel of fate – a mechanical rin-ne. And Time-On-Target Homura, one-girl-artillery-battalion was unutterably cool.

  40. Di Gi Kazune Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 8:48 pm

    Actually, spending the last few minutes thinking about it carefully…

    WHO IS MADOKA???

    If she really saved the universe, no one would know :3

  41. Suning Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 8:56 pm

    is it just me or QB looks cute near the end? idk he didn’t looked creepy this time (he was since first episode)
    also it seemed that walpurgis night was imune to any “human weapon” that’s why homura would never defeat it no matter how much she tried.
    another thing is when madoka gets in god form (lol) her eyes change to yellow color.

  42. Rio Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 9:38 pm

    I LIKED IT COZ MAMI IS ALIVE!!! :DDDDD

  43. Kagekyuubi Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 9:43 pm

    Not the ending I would have gone with if it were up to me but it brought in the last thing the series needed to be truly qualify as the Evangelion of the Mahou Shoujo genre. It was definitely an awesome ending though there was a bit too much talking in there. My mind is full of fuck from the ending right now so I can’t say whether or not I like it enough to overlook that but it doesn’t change the fact that this was a magnificent series and that I want a season 2 or rebuild movies NAO!!

  44. Skribulous Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 10:14 pm

    It was satisfactory.

    Brilliant marketing strategy, delaying the ending until Holy Week.

    I give it 3 years, and this will all be forgotten, anyway.

    @CaptainBright

    You do realize Madoka IS the God-Empress? YOU ARE THE HERETIC

  45. Organics Said,

    April 22, 2011 @ 11:29 pm

    Thumbs up. Any disappointment from me would be because the series peaked like 5 times already during the season. Those were some pretty damn high standards to meet, so in a way, the end didn’t feel entirely unique in that regard. We’ve already had a bunch of “WOW!” episodes.

    Surprisingly generous ending considering the writer. Bittersweet, of course, but satisfying. Homura’s sacrifice ends up saving the world after all, and she is acknowledged by Madoka, who will be with her forever now. Remember, Madoka’s wish only has God-like potential because Homura hung on as long as she did, and never gave up on her.

    A few quibbles and “lol wut” moments, but they’re mostly balanced out or contribute to my satisfaction in the end. Example: Sayaka still dies (lol) but she and Kyouko finally become friends, and she goes out on her own terms. D’awww.

    Madoka’s in her heaven.

  46. whisper Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 12:01 am

    Liked it, because I was entertained. I have to admit, while the beginning was different, it didn’t feel like something I would enjoy. Episode 10+ definitely changed my mind.

  47. TroytheSkull Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 12:32 am

    For some of the comments. I don’t get why you all were hoping for a depressing ending, or a unhappy one? In my mind it would of been better if it ended on a good note or at lest “bitter sweet” one like it did. Not everybody dies or a lets do it again[againagain] one.

    After some thinking & sleep I am waking up feeling a lot more happier with the ending. Madoka wish makes a little more sense to me now & the “new world” that came to be. Though still going to re-watch it again some time soon because I am sure I miss some things but overall a good last two eps. even for the odd moments that could of been done differently[Or maybe not?].

    I came into this show a Mami fan, ended up being a Kyouko fan in the end. -=o

  48. SaharaFrost Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 12:40 am

    Before I begin, I should say that while I am approaching this from the opinion of an audience member, I am also (probably even more-so) viewing this from the perspective of a writer. So please bear with me.

    I suppose I’ll start by just going ahead and saying that I found the ending extremely satisfying. And this is partially because, not only is this exactly what I expected, but also because I feel this is the only way the story COULD end.

    Now…don’t get me wrong…I’m not saying that there weren’t other paths that Gen could have chosen for the ending. Technically every story has as many potential endings as the author can think up. At the same time, though, all of the different threads that make up a story…all of the creative decisions that an author makes…inevitably leads to a “natural” conclusion. It may not be a conclusion that anybody likes. But it’s clear when the author has chosen the ending that “best fits” with their creation. In the same way, it is also usually clear when an author has NOT chosen the best ending…the puzzle pieces just don’t fit quite right together.

    In Madoka…while the show certainly has its flaws…all of the pieces fit. Does this make the show predictable? Yes. But everything was executed so well that the story’s predictability did not become a detrimental factor. This, I feel, applies to the ending as well. If the show had ended on that happy, pitch perfect note in which everyone is saved and lives happily ever after, the story would have felt fake, abandoned its purpose, and then lost a significant amount of credibility. If the ending had instead been a tragic one, in which, for example, either Kyubey and the witches “win” or Homura is forced to repeat the cycle again, the audience would have been left with a sense of hopelessness. Now…if that was the message Gen had wanted to send, then such an ending, of course, would be perfectly acceptable. It might have made the audience feel as though everything they invested in these characters and so on was pointless…but it could have worked. Hopelessness, however, was not Gen’s message. Quite the opposite. And in doing so, he also validated everything I invested in the story, characters, etc. The sympathy and empathy that I eventually developed for Madoka, Homura, etc. was not dashed to the ground and thrown into the void of hopelessness. I was not left feeling that the situation was hopeless…that all the efforts of the characters (and my efforts with them) were pointless.

    Thus, we come to the ending Gen chose…one that falls right in the middle, in a sense making a compromise. It could not end with a “happily ever after” because that’s not how the world works, but it also could not end with a “everything is hopeless so don’t bother trying” ending either, because (unless pointlessness is the point) it would be…well…pointless. In what I would consider to be the deepest and most profound act of love, Madoka sacrifices herself for the world. This is not just any kind of sacrifice, though, as we see her make in the many different timelines that Homura lives through. Madoka does not waste her wish. She makes the best possible wish, empowering herself to break the universe out of its terrible vicious cycle and, in doing so, leaves behind the ultimate gift of love: hope…a precious gift of enormous power to whose worth nothing can even come close to comparing.

    Now…does the cycle continue as we see at the very end when Homura battles demons instead of witches? Yes. Because life goes on like that. When something is removed, a gaping hole does not get left behind…something else will naturally fill it. And…as someone very dear to me said…Evil MUST exist, for if it didn’t, then there could be no Good. Evil, in an odd sort of sense, is a proof of Good’s existence. So does this mean that Homura is still trapped in the vicious cycle? Does this mean that everything Madoka did was pointless? That the universe has just stepped from the cooking pot into the fire? No. And I believe the best proof of this is actually none other than Kyubey:

    “It’s true that not even we can explain why exhausted Soul Gems disappear, so the concept of these “witches” you speak of is really fascinating. It certainly is an excellent way to gather the emotional energy of humans. If such an easy way existed, us Incubators would have quite a different plan.”

    In this scene, Homura also refers back to the time during which “Our relations with you [the Incubators] weren’t the best, either.”

    In other words, though neither of them come right out and say it so bluntly, the Incubators’ plans have changed and, as such, their relationship with humans is also different (from the sounds of it, for the better). Could there be another alien race now in the old role of the Incubators? Could the Demons that Homura fights have once been humans just as the witches were once magical girls? Yes, of course. But there is a huge difference now, one that Homura has the privilege of knowing. The universe has, thanks to Madoka’s sacrifice, moved forward to a new stage…it has progressed. And while it may very well be in yet another vicious cycle, this time the situation is not hopeless. For if Madoka could figure out how to break the universe out of one “inescapable” prison, then somebody else will be able to figure out how to break free of the next.

    So there you have it…my long, lengthy opinion. I rambled on quite a bit, so I understand if you don’t read it all. So to conclude, I’ll just repeat by saying I believe this was the best possible ending for the show.

  49. J3N0V4 Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 1:17 am

    I’m holding my opinion until the manga comes round and hopefully does a better job of explaining whatever the hell that was.

  50. bahutmut Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 1:18 am

    so, who was the cat in the OP?

  51. AC Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 1:39 am

    The concept was fine; the execution was poor. Realistically, everyone and their dog expected something of the sort to eventuate – Madoka’s problem is that it thoroughly ham-fisted the entire affair. The aftermath scenes lacked emotional resonance because you were still trying to figure out exactly what had transpired, and what it meant for Madoka and Homura. The build up was also plain unbelievable – Madoka’s mother letting her run out into the middle of a storm with no apparent reason (she’s already suspicious of her daughter for knowing something about Sayaka’s mysterious death) and then Homura giving into despair. It plain lacked build up and explanation to make it believable.

    QB’s opening diatribe was additionally meant to be emotionless and logical, but came off as anything but. It wasn’t reasonable or persuasive in the slightest, and Madoka just came off as being kinda stupid for swallowing it.

  52. Game8910 Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 2:04 am

    Considering how the series had done a great job at providing plot twists and leaving people intrigued and speculating on what would happen next. The ending was by far the most predictable event in the series to I was a bit let down since I had expected a bit more from Madoka when it comes to the story department.

    With that said I did not hate the ending by any means, in fact it was rather fitting. If it had gone with a happy ending I prob would’ve raged so at the very least I enjoyed seeing things conclude in this way.

    As a whole Madoka was an above average anime with a very interesting and intriguing plot but I still cannot understand the PoV of those that praise this as one of the best anime in recent years. Apart from the plot, I couldnt really get too much into the characters or the SHINBOness this time around (much like Bakemonogatari).

  53. Tiresias Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 2:20 am

    Haven’t watched 11 yet due to me forgetting that there was TWO new episode and skipping right to the last, but for now, I must admit that I expected this to have Evangelion (series or End) kind of ending, but it turned out to be more Gurren Lagann, bittersweet ending and all. Whether this is a good thing or not depends on eps 11.

  54. G.K. Sil Kamina Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 2:31 am

    I ended up liking the ending. For a long time I was scared they’d go with a “I wish magical girls and witches didn’t exist!” and then everyone was revived and lived happily ever after as normal girls (at least until the universe imploded thanks to lack of female misery power). But instead we get a bittersweet version where girls still get contracted and die early, but don’t have to suffer and become eldritch abominations.

    Plus Madoka becoming both Godoka and Frilly Pink Mahou Shoujo Reaperka was neat. Too bad about Sayaka still getting the short end of the stick, though. The things you do for love!

  55. Zzz... Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 3:59 am

    “You probably would still be living in caves.”

    I love that line. That whole conversation about the prosperity of the present (and future) being built on the despair and suffering of the past.

    Oh…oh…and calling Humanity a collection of the criminally insane.

    …Godoka…really?

    Is someone going to write a existential play about…

    Waiting for Godoka…by Homura…who else…

  56. CaptainBright Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 4:16 am

    @Skribulous

    GOD-EMPRESS?!!! WHAT FOUL PITS OF CHAOS HAVE YOU COME OUT OF, HERETIC?! THAT’S IT, YOU’RE EXTRA HERETICAL! “BLAM”

    ‘Wipes hands clean of blood’

    Now where were we… Ah yes. Can’t believe this is still going on… Oh how I hoped Shin Mazinger Z had this kind of discussion….

  57. JimJim Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 4:42 am

    I think I’m not the first to say this, but for SURE there was another original ending that goes WAY sadder (and more thought provoking) than this optimistic happy end.

    I guess they HAVE to change it to the current form after the massive earthquake. Did you see how many Japanese people were waiting to watch this? 22.6% of households in the entire Kansai region when it aired at 3:00am local time.

    After the massive real world tragedy, this HAVE TO be something uplifting.

  58. deBurg Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 4:58 am

    some ppl said that Madoka’s mum was foolish in letting her wishy daughter out into the storm. Blah I say, the mum’s no fool (she knew something out of her ken was happening), she was keeping tabs on Madoka and she ain’t raised no wishy washy airhead. Madoka’s seemingly indecisiveness was her realizing that the wish was more important than others were letting on (especially with the hints that Homura was dropping), and until the last episode – she just didn’t have the knowledge on making the best of it.

    Pooh pah, every parent’s dream is that they raised their kid to be good enough to handle life, the mum never coodled her and hit the nail perfect “don’t let them fool ya!” in her last scene. Yes, break QB’s rules, and get the f-ing universe to follow yours!

  59. EvilDevil Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 7:12 am

    @deBurg

    plus she gets to be the mother of a Deity (even if she doesnt remember): “My Daughter is an Ultimate Deity, How About Yours?”

  60. South Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 10:04 am

    I think she should have also wished for the Mahou Shoujo not to have their bodies/souls stolen by the wish…that’s what made Sayaka go into despair for the most part…they are still doomed, I don’t get that.

  61. asdjsd Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 10:31 am

    The series summed up is “What do you wish for.” It took that simple concept and added weight to the consequence the wish. Many stories have asked this same question, and through them, colored in the details of the consequence of that wish. I have to say that the patience of this anime to answer what would madoka wish for is great. If you remember, it went from whimsical thought (at least on madoka’s behalf) to ever weightier matters of healing an incurable hand all the way to saving a life. Along the way it showed what happened when a girl gave into wish completely; painted a nice picture of the monsters we become when giving into obsession. The show took all these themes and lead us ever deeper into their consequences. And just when the road was darkest. And I couldnt imagine finding a different path from the one I was lead onto, Madoka spoke her wish and illuminated a way out. And what followed was a hail of light, in the form of countless arrows that carried the being madoka across all ages to free all the victims of kyubees deception. Wow.

    So, yeah, I liked the ending

  62. LovelyAngel Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 10:31 am

    I had very high expectations, so it’s not surprising I met with some disappointment and letdown. The finale did not have the heartpounding impact I was hoping for. And yet, the episode was powerful, thoughtful, beautiful, and emotional. I cried in a few places… even on the second time around.

    I wished the music were stronger – key scenes could have used support from the powerful, emotion-raising music we know Yuki Kajiura is capable of. I’m wishing (without much optimism – and no contracts, please –) that someone at Shaft decides to redo the music for the DVD/Blu-ray release.

    I have some minor reservations about the way that the story wrapped up, but I think the bittersweet results were about right – not too dark and not too light. Shaft had about 1000 ways they could have screwed up the ending – badly – so I’m happy that they got it mostly right.

    The ending left us with a lot interpret and to reflect on. I like that you can’t draw black and white conclusions or interpretations. I suspect that my feelings for the episode are going to build up over time – every little scene will develop a special thought, insight, or emotion. Nuances and ramifications from this episode are going to sneak up on people, I think. People who really study this episode in depth are going to discover a subtle and intricate tapestry. I believe the brilliance of the episode will take time to reveal itself. For some people, this episode is going to look much better over time.

    Also, something that people forget is that the main characters are 14-year-old middle-school girls – not high schoolers. The maturity, wisdom, courage, and selflessness they show is well beyond their years. All things considered, they made awfully good decisions. I know at 14 I couldn’t have held a candle to them.

    In short, I really liked the ending a lot. I didn’t 100% love it. But things could have been much, much worse. So I’m grateful.

  63. kyseri Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 10:56 am

    I can safely say I liked the ending, whereas it wasn’t amazingly moving I felt that it ties up the series in a way that I can accept and potentially revisit.

    There’s a few holes but I think I’d like it less if they tried to explicitly explain all these holes during the episode, it would make it too wordy… we have enough information to make our own guesses as to what happened. just my take on it

  64. AidanAK47 Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 11:06 am

    I am conflicted.

    On one hand this style of ending is something I have not seen in ages. It takes balls to pull off something like this. There are so many ways it can go wrong and come off a pretentious. However it managed to avoid this. It also gives the viewer a happy conclusion to a otherwise depressing series. Oh and just in case people wonder why any magical girl didn’t wish for what Madoka wished for before, Kyubey did mention that because of her power any wish would be granted no matter how absurd. Meaning, previous wishes had limits.

    However on the other hand I don’t think this was the best way to end the series. I can think of another way that could have worked. This ending had too much hope and happiness. It left a bad taste. I would have preferred an ending where the cycle was broken but the kyubey system was still in effect and the dead magical girls remained dead.

    I still really love the show. However, there were flaws.
    1: Kyubey infodumps were unnecessary. We didn’t need to know that Kyubey was an alien. We didn’t need to know about the counter entropy system. We didn’t need to know that past famous female figures were magical girls. It would have been much better for Kyubey to remain an unknown entity. The minute Kyubey revealed himself to be an alien he changed from manipulative dark demon to intergalactic energy salesman. This killed his interesting character. Should have just left it a mystery so we could paint him as whatever we wanted.
    2: When you think about it the characters were not really special. It was the situations they were placed in that really defined them. They wouldn’t be half as interesting to watch if placed in a different kind of story.
    3: Say what you will, I still think the cutout animated witches in the beginning just looked terribly out of place.
    4: Slow start-up. Madoka only got truly interesting at episode 3.Before that it was fairly stereotypical magical girl story. I understand why this was like this. Still I cannot ignore it.

    So I am conflicted about my score on this. I say…..9/10. Maybe 8.5.

  65. foshizzel Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 11:15 am

    I shall miss this series! OH MAN SO GOOD!

  66. FlameStrike Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 12:10 pm

    This ending was just amazing. It was so emotionally impacting and inspired such AWE in me that I can’t put it in words… Madoka, you will be remebered!

  67. Pyro Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 1:55 pm

    Random comment: For those who thing Homura ‘gave up’ her time-stop powers… that is not necessarily true. She may have just decided to go with using a bow to honor Madoka’s memory (along with the ribbon). Homura retaining her memory probably means she retained her powers as well. Her soul gem is the same, after all.

  68. Yumii Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 3:33 pm

    *sigh* The end of Meduka Meguca
    http://i.imgur.com/UDfJY.jpg

  69. Random Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 5:22 pm

    I’d say I love it
    It had the great fight with Walpurgis, it was so amazing and jaw dropping.
    I cried more than I did in air, with that being pure drama.
    The ending was open, it creates more depression if you think about it, why would monsters be out in the wild? Shouldn’t they dwell in cities, combined with the desert and Homura’s black wings, I wonder if something happened to humanity and Homura is the last.

    It certainly isn’t perfect, but for a show at this level, creating a perfect ending is near impossible. I am extremely satisfied with it.

    PS: In response, the DVD sales on Amazon Japan is currently DOMINATED by Madoka.

  70. Manabi Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 6:32 pm

    I loved it myself. I had worked out a lot of the details (how Homura’s time traveling had caused Madoka’s potential power to go up, because of the imbalance of the timelines she touched (although they show described this differently, same effect) and even suspected that Madoka’s potential power was the wildcard that would allow for a potentially happy ending), but I never suspected what Madoka would actually do.

    I mean seriously, Madoka made a huge sacrifice, she gave up her existence to become HOPE. As QB told her, she had ceased to exist as anything but a concept, and while he didn’t out-right state it, given her wish and the execution of it, she had become HOPE to the _entire universe_. That’s a pretty powerful move, and not something I was expecting given Gen Urobuchi’s reputation. What was even nicer was that Homura made this possible. Her sacrifice and suffering due to her wish (and undying love for Madoka) made Madoka powerful enough to actually be able to pull off the wish that basically saved every Puella Magica ever from the horror that was becoming a witch.

    That there’s still Puella Magica out there, and that they still have to fight isn’t that depressing. Madoka didn’t try to remove all suffering from the universe, she merely wanted to save all the Puella Magica from such a horrible fate (merely dying to fight evil to protect those you love isn’t that bad, becoming evil yourself afterward is horrible beyond belief) and in the process gave hope to everyone.

    In the end Madoka’s basically with all of us; every time we need hope, she’s there. She made the universe a better place and that’s pretty awesome. Totally not what I was expecting to happen, but I was very satisfied with how it ended.

  71. ryvrdrgn14 Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 7:08 pm

    My personal opinion about the initial 10 episodes is that they were actually a buildup for a hopeful ending. You generally cannot have much impact on a ‘happy’ ending if the show’s previous atmosphere was lighthearted. A ‘sad’ ending wouldn’t have as much impact if the show was already in a downward spiral.

    I believed that something like this (not exactly how it turned out) would happen to even out the curve of dark/depressing things that happened throughout the show and since it’s happens after 10 almost hopeless/heartbreaking episodes, then the value and viewer emotions on the conclusion would be higher than usual.

    The show, for me, is mostly about proper use of contrast to better emphasize darkness and light, rather than delivering a simple show with varying shades of grey.

    The actual ending was off tangent to my expectations, but a good and ‘safe’ one nonetheless. I didn’t like the inclusion of popular historical figures into the mix as integrated into the story, but we all have our own opinions about these things.

    To summarize, I’d have to say that I do like the ending, as placed in proper perspective to the rest of the show. And no, I’m still not converting from the Haruhi religion to this one. :)

  72. ahelo Said,

    April 23, 2011 @ 9:34 pm

    No one believed me that Madoka was going to become God. I mean I was just wild guessing it back in episode 8 or something but OMG I WAS FREAKIN RIGHT.This will beat Haruhiism for sure. I mean they even have a prophet here.

    For the ending, I’m gonna be biased and say that was THE BEST ENDING EVER MADE. I don’t care about faults anymore, I loved it to death.

  73. skyhack Said,

    April 24, 2011 @ 6:55 am

    I liked it, partially because I (wild ass) guessed it (See Nopy’s blog) and it reminded me of another favorite, Serial Experiments Lain. After all, Lain resets the world, becomes an ethereal, omnipotent presence in the wired, she can see anyone anytime she wants, and no one remembers her when she’s gone. Her reset even has some humor in it, something that’s nonexistent in the rest of Lain.

    I also like how Madoka’s reset made the relationship between the Incubators and humans more symbiotic, and that Homura is apparently now a normal girl who can don her gem when she needs to use her magic.

  74. Guppy Said,

    April 24, 2011 @ 8:12 am

    How about this interpretation of the final scene…

    Madoka wishes for all witches to cease to exist, past-present-future. The balancing payment for this is that Madoka becomes a Witch — but the wish precludes this, creating a paradox. Madoka disappears from existence.

    When a Magical Girl’s payment for a wish comes due, it once purchased despair. Instead, thanks to Madoka, it now purchases Hope. But Homura’s wish is to protect a girl who never existed. As such, her wish is paradoxed as well, and can never be fulfilled.

    So Homura is the one Magical girl who can never be saved. In a universe where Witches Cannot Exist, Homura becomes the paradoxical Last Witch, as she spreads her wings and lets eternal night take her sky.

  75. hashem Said,

    April 24, 2011 @ 8:55 am

    I thought it was a pretty good ending. It was a great series. Sad to see it end

  76. Rincewind Said,

    April 24, 2011 @ 10:37 am

    I like the ending. A lot.
    With Urobuchi as writer I was expecting a sad ending, so the bittersweet ending is something to be thankful. And what an ending. Well executed, like the whole series.
    Full of crowning moments one after another. Of all types.

    Amazing job, SHAFT, Urobuchi, Shinbo, Aoki, Kajiura. I salute all of you! Thanks for bringing this fantastic series.

    Now, all praise Omadoka-sama!!

  77. Yi Said,

    April 24, 2011 @ 11:21 am

    Definitely in the like camp. Gave and still gives me a lot to think about.

  78. soulassassin547 Said,

    April 24, 2011 @ 11:44 am

    I like it more, but that’s not all. I want to see more of this Madokaverse than its 12-episode straitjacket, in the form of spin-offs and Director’s Cuts.

    Those references to WH40K are giving me interest to see into that other grimdark world.

  79. Skribulous Said,

    April 24, 2011 @ 11:50 am

    Black cat = biggest red herring ever. Or Madoka was actually written on the fly, and the cat was meant to have a role but was written out at the last moment.

    @CaptainBright

    Ha, missed! Silly Commissar, we all know you need to get closer to hit anything with your sword.

  80. Kaisos Said,

    April 24, 2011 @ 12:37 pm

    @Skribulous: The entire OP is a red herring. Apparently the staff put the cat there as just another way of fucking with the viewerbase.

  81. Raichuko Said,

    April 24, 2011 @ 1:16 pm

    I always thought the cat could be Kazumi.
    The ending was good, i started to tear up when Sayaka and Madoka were in the theater, but held back my tears, saving them for a really sad bit. Although that didn’t come. It would be good to see an explanation of what really happened in the process from shaft or somebody, at some point.

  82. Eriker Xangam Ragnarok Said,

    April 24, 2011 @ 7:15 pm

    The ending was awesome, Madoka pwning everything with a AOE attack & before that Homuras finall battle(explosive mountains FTW). Just wished the battles would have been a bit longer. Also we need a OVA/Movie with Homura after “MadokaGodification”, where she meets Madoka again :D

  83. Mentar Said,

    April 25, 2011 @ 12:08 am

    Fantastic ending. 95% of all open questions were resolved LOGICALLY! I’ll write up something comprehensive when I can, but for now let me say that Madoka made the top of my “best anime ever” list. Wonderful story. Thank you Urobuchi Gen, thank you Yuki Kajiura, and thank you Shinbo for this wonderful experience.

  84. Mitch H. Said,

    April 25, 2011 @ 10:40 am

    Eriker, since they pretty definitively established that Homura will meet Madoka “in the hour of our death”, I don’t see much of a chance for a sequel-OVA there. And the story’s kind of involved for a summary-digest movie like the Gurren Lagann or Macross Frontier movies. Not that I’ve seen either – digest summary movies have been done right exactly once, far as I’m concerned – Do You Remember Love or go home, you know?

  85. asdjsd Said,

    April 30, 2011 @ 7:56 pm

    AidanAK47 Said

    2: When you think about it the characters were not really special. It was the situations they were placed in that really defined them. They wouldn’t be half as interesting to watch if placed in a different kind of story.

    That is the definition of a hero, you realise? Ordinary people doing extradinary things because of the situation that is thrust upon them.

  86. Mmm Said,

    May 10, 2011 @ 2:24 pm

    Madoka magica review.
    (KYOTO UNIV. PRESS)

    http://goo.gl/WubBN

  87. Mutei Said,

    March 10, 2012 @ 9:08 pm

    I thought the anime itself sucked. All they would do each episode was cry, it took Madoka 10 out of 13 episodes just to get her powers, and every character in the anime except Kyubei was just illogical. Kyubei would explain something, and the characters would be like “Oh that’s so cruel”, I mean seriously? Wtf is wrong with this show.

    I honestly don’t see why people like this show.

  88. Draconis Said,

    April 10, 2012 @ 5:52 pm

    Liked it because it was much better than Mass Effect 3′s ending. lol

  89. MissKitty Said,

    July 2, 2012 @ 11:29 am

    Okay, so her wish erased all witches but that still means that the Puella Magi have to remain Puella Magi with no soul and fight until their Soul Gem runs out and they disappear?

    I feel like they’re still under immense pain and suffering. And despair. It’s only that, this time, that despair doesn’t turn them into witches. And when exactly does their Soul Gem run out? How does it run out in the first place if despair doesn’t exist anymore? Isn’t that kind of sad, to fight for eternity and then disappear when your Soul Gem runs out? I suppose it’s better than turning into a witch, which must be painful, but they’re still dying. They’re still disappearing at such a young age. They’re still fighting without souls. They’re still in danger of this new threat; demons.

    And why are they still fighting if there are no witches? Is it because the new ‘curses’ found in demons are the new form of preventing entropy?

    I like the ending, it made cry…*blush*…but I have this empty feeling. I almost feel like, with all the hope Madoka used to destroy the despair that was trying to consume the Earth, that Puella Magi would stop being Puella Magi and entropy would have ended due to all the hope God-Madoka created. That would have sat with me better. That all Puella Magi went back to being normal girls. Or at least, when their Soul Gems ran out, they went back to being normal girls. Yeah. The latter would have sat with me better. Not them disappearing. Because then I feel like Madoka’s wish was all for naught. It only benefited humanity and the universe, not the Puella Magi.

  90. Kurogane Shiroikaze Said,

    July 2, 2012 @ 6:56 pm

    I think it was implied if the Soul Gems run out, the Puella Magi disappeared rather than turn in to witches.

    Madoka’s wish not really to deus ex machina the entropy problem away. If the Incubators were capable of doing that, they would’ve prodded someone else to do so the moment the realized they could.

    What Madoka did, in the confines of her own knowledge (remember she’s only 14), was to release the hopes and dreams of the Puella Magi she saw trapped in a ridiculous cycle of hope-granting followed with despair. I don’t really expect her to realize the magnitude of what the Incubators were trying to solve, but she certainly did know that it was unfair for the Puella Magi to be conned in to something so unfair to them.

    Also she did not totally erase despair, because that would be a silly thing to do. What she chose was to allow the Puella Magi to leave the world, with hope still in their hearts, knowing that their wishes will not be tainted.

    I suggest reading the other post I made here: http://kurogane.animeblogger.net/2011/04/25/puella-magi-madoka-magica-the-finale/

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