Puella Magi Madoka Magica 08

Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica

“In this country, females growing up are called 「少女」.
So it would be appropriate for all of you, who will become 「魔女」 to be called 「魔法少女」”.


Oh god, Kyubey. Oh god. What have you girls done? WHAT HAVE YOUR POOR GIRLS GOTTEN YOURSELVES IN TO?!

Well, shit finally hits the fucking fan here as Sayaka finally melts down and Kyubey confirms his evil nature. God damn, even if I saw this coming, it still hits pretty damn fucking hard man.

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The most obvious theories/SPECULAH have been confirmed, including:

  1. Magical girls turn in to witches when the corruption in their Soul Gem reaches critical levels.
    Sayaka unfortunately becomes the example confirming the theory when her despair finally reaches critical levels and her Soul Gem actually turns to a Grief Seed. Also FUCKING KYUBEY!!!!!
  2. Homura is a time traveller.
    Homura’s powers confirmed as time manipulation (complete with some cool grenade summoning and Kyubey beehiving). Kyubey actually states she’s from a different time axis than the setting of Madoka Magica. There’s also a part where she confidently points out the location of the upcoming “Walpurgisnacht”.
  3. Kyubey is evil.
    Well, it’s not really a theory anymore since episode 3 but oh god that quote RIGHT UP THERE. FFFFFUUU—

And the other “big” revelations this week are mainly on Kyubey’s ‘true’ nature. His name is actually a shortened form of “Incubator” (インキュベーター) and he has multiple bodies that apparently can be summoned if his current one gets crushed. Also, HE FUCKING EATS UP HIS OLD BODIES whenever he changes them. Oh god, that scene is gonna give me nightmares.

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The “Incubator” reveal of his name really just had me laughing at both how ridiculous it was and how obvious it was. Looks like his role is really to “incubate” Witches by first creating Puella Magi and then dropping them in to despair or exhausting their Soul Gems to the point of corruption. And based on episode 6, it looks like he’s transporting the final product, i.e. fully charged Grief Seeds (literally) to some other dimension. Which, I might add, has been almost confirmed by this episode. But god, HE FUCKING EATS HIMSELF. Dear fucking god.

Another thing that Kyubey also blurts out this week is that Madoka may actually have enough power to warp reality and rewrite the laws of nature. Considering his “salesman” persona, I’m not too actually sure if he means it 100% or if it’s just another attempt at selling his angle to her again, but there is one curious thing he says to her; she can be an all-powerful God. Remember the lyrics of Magia?

And, in a surprising turn of events, we also see Homura actually breaking down in front of Madoka. Actually crying and begging her to consider herself more worthy too. One thing that Madoka surely needs to fix is that inferiority complex of hers. Also, in line with the time traveller theory, it looks like Madoka has met her before, but it seems she’s blocked it out or doesn’t remember properly yet.

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Kyoko’s gone far as a character too, considering she has been around for four episodes only. She actually tried to save Sayaka from falling in to despair and even encourages her too. Hell, I could feel the disappointment in her voice and eyes when Sayaka transformed in to a Witch right in front of her. I really, REALLY hope she gets out of this better now.

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You idiot, I was still eatinggggggggg!!!

And speaking of which, it looks like I was quite right when I thought that Mami actually had it best as a Puella Magi. Not only she achieved a small moment of happiness, she also managed to avoid the ultimate fate of being turned in to the very enemy she sought to battle, most importantly not knowing about it too! God, it’s sad in a way, but it’s also relieving at the same time. Fuck.

Anyways, the episode ends on a real cliffhanger this time… WHY ISN’T IT THURSDAY ALREADY?!! ARGH.


Now that Sayaka’s gone in to a Witch, it looks it’s Puella Magi Kyouko Magica to save the day!

Sigh… being meguca is really suffering. (ಠ_ಠ)

This week’s end card is done by Fujima Takuya, better known as the artist of Nanoha ViViD

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  1. Mentar Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 3:46 am

    The “turning witch” scene was a piece of art. Absolutely wonderful.

    Urobuchi/Shinbo/Kajiura, I salute you. Thank you for this supreme experience.

  2. Athos Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 3:56 am

    8 episodes in. Oh dear god, SHAFT was really messing with us. Madoka never actually becomes a Mahou Shoujo.

    On that note, how many times interrupting Madoka mid-contract does this make? It’s almost a running gag!

  3. Zzz... Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 4:01 am


    I was right…all of it…

    Tragedy and despair really are my favorite mediums…

  4. Xellos-_^ Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 4:01 am

    i hate you kuro ;_;

    couldn’t resist the spoilers

  5. Kurogane Shiroikaze Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 4:08 am

    @Mentar: Can’t agree more with ya! God I want that BGM disc already.

    @Athos: I sure hope she NEVER becomes one.

    @Xellos: On the bright side, you can watch the raw now!

  6. Exar Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 4:09 am

    Only two words to describe everything that happened in this episode

    HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!

  7. Mentar Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 4:25 am

    I’m pretty sure that Madoka WILL become a MG in the end. That’s how she’ll power the ending, which is going to be bittersweet.

    You guys should pay close attention to OP and ED. Dollars to donuts that the OP is from Madoka’s point of view, when she STARTS her MG career (after they survive the Walpurgisnacht). The ED is from Homura’s point of view, now, before the disaster.

    So, OP and ED are effectively swapped ;)

  8. Anise_Punter Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 4:34 am

    All I’m going to remember from this episode are Kyoko eating her pringles and Kyubey eating his own corpse. That is some major f***ed up stuff right there.

    As soon as I saw Madoka’s face on the end card I thought of Nanoha Vivid (before seeing who drew it); the last thing we need is some sort of Madoka/Nanoha crossover because I don’t think I could handle the awesome.

    But Kyubey eating himself, cripes. OM NOM NOM indeed.

  9. Kryptik Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 4:35 am

    Kyuubey proves himself the ultimate troll. All he needed was the face, and dat face….dat face….he’s got the whole package now.

  10. feal87 Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 4:59 am

    Kyubey is THE troll and I’m liking more and more this series. Interested in how they’ll finish it. :D

  11. metalsnakezero Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 5:34 am

    “Now that Sayaka’s gone in to a Witch, it looks it’s Puella Magi Kyouko Magica to save the day! ”
    Not happening with the ways things are going.
    This episode didn’t just hit fans but a plane’s engine, which than crashed in to another plane that was about to land!

  12. J3N0V4 Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 6:00 am

    I can’t look at the whole thread but I gotta say QB has got the head tilt GOING ON!!!!

  13. Hangmen Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 6:02 am


    And yes, it’s already as keikaku’d that Sayaka’s gonna went full baka and become a zombiegoast.

  14. Dude Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 6:30 am

    Bwahahahaha. Totally called it.

  15. Lurking reader Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 6:32 am

    I’ll leave here something from /a/

    Dear Charlotte,

    Though you are a witch, and that you, wretch, are a cause for other people’s suffering, I sincerely thank you. That you consumed Mami’s soul instead of letting it break is an unwitting blessing upon Mami. You have, in fact, given Mami a graceful exit from this tomfoolery parade, and in by doing so, diverted her from her eventual fate of turning into a witch. You have shattered her soul completely and decisively, leaving nothing, not even grief, left of it.

    Again, though a wretch you are, I sincerely thank you from saving Mami from her misfortune.

  16. masou shojo said Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 6:59 am

    sayaka is the witch in the first episode were madoka dreams about homura and homura is fighting the witch sayaka.

  17. Skribulous Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 8:23 am

    >Now that Sayaka’s gone in to a Witch, it looks it’s Puella Magi Kyouko Magica to save the day!

    Kyouko is so fucking fucked.

    And throwing in my speculations/theory into the mix: Madoka will become a magical girl, but not through a contract with The Incubator. Homura was only attempting to stop Madoka from forming a contract with QB, but it may be possible that Madoka might be a “true” magical girl, not a “little slave to magic”.

  18. Dude Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 8:37 am

    Maybe Madoka can make a contract with herself.

  19. altux Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 9:05 am

    so what’s the meaning of the scene’s in the OP where Mami, Madoka, and Sayaka get together? what’s the meaning of it? is there no way so they can be togather? Or si it the hope of Madoka in the very first Scene?

  20. Kurogane Shiroikaze Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 9:44 am

    It’s there to tease everyone.

  21. avexmode Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 9:44 am

    Next time read the fine print before signing any contract.

  22. Sahara Frost Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 9:55 am

    Did anybody notice that they still do not actually show Hitomi asking Kyosuke out? Sure, it’s implied…and that’s the way Sayaka interprets their conversation since she can’t hear them from where she’s standing. But I still support the theory that Hitomi was actually trying to push Sayaka to make a move. All she told Kyosuke was that she wanted to “talk to him about something”…so for all we know, she may have wanted to talk to him about Sayaka.

    Also…I agree that “Incubator” is a very obvious name. But literature freak that I am, i prefer to analyze things a little more. Another possibility to consider is that Incubator may be a spin off of “Incubus”….the male demon of nightmares. It’s a thought. :P

  23. EvilDevil Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 10:28 am

    Fck QB! I want that rat dead!

  24. Kyubey Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 11:03 am

    Just as planned. ( ◕ ω ◕ )

  25. herp Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 11:06 am


    fucking gold

  26. Saber Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 11:19 am

    “Another thing that Kyubey also blurts out this week is that Madoka may actually have enough power to warp reality and rewrite the laws of nature”

    Well that opens an unlimited possible events now. may be revive mami or return sayaka to normal girl without memory about or even summon Chuck Norris to make the little Incubator into punch-bag. Ye techinically everything can happen with this unimaginable power now.

    However great power comes with equal risk.

    BTW any1 thinks that there is an alternate world where witches are good girls fighting magical girl (evil girls) and Kyubei just want to keep the balance by transfering Witch in this world to another world to become Megical girl? After watching Code Geass I cant decide which 1 is bad until the series end.

  27. cx Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 11:58 am

    qb was sure one smug bastard this ep

  28. Dude Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 12:03 pm


    Madoka has yet to make a wish. THAT’s potential.

    As for whether she can alter reality, all she needs to do is to wish for a world without mahou shoujos and witches, effectively ending this entire charade, that would be reality altering.

  29. cx Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 12:06 pm

    was thinking the same thing.

  30. Xellos-_^ Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 12:19 pm


    also effectively killing all Mahou Shoujos.

  31. Kryptik Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 12:39 pm

    @Sahara Frost

    At this point, it really doesn’t matter. The possibility occurred to me immediately upon seeing that scene…but it doesn’t matter what her intentions really were at that time. Unless there’s a way to bring Sayaka back, all that matters is that her perception of what was happening was enough to send her completely head first into despair, and the point of no return. There’s functionally no difference, especially with how utterly shattered Sayaka’s psyche proved to be.

  32. Kurogane Shiroikaze Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 12:46 pm

    @Sahara Frost: You know what’s the sad thing? IT DOESN’T MATTER ANYMORE.

    @herp: the caption practically wrote itself.

    @Saber: the problem is that there’s no guarantee if Kyubey would allow his “system” to be changed that easily.

  33. Skribulous Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 1:26 pm


    Well, there is that one theory floating around…


  34. KayDat Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 1:37 pm

    “Oh god, that scene is gonna give me nightmares.”

    Try sleeping at 5am after staying up to watch the stream. I couldn’t.

  35. Kurogane Shiroikaze Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 1:46 pm

    You know, I did sleep at 5am after watching the raw. Hahah.

  36. Pafiume Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 1:57 pm

    Kyubee eating his previous body was the first thing that really freaked me out from him. Otherwise he’s just some animal that doesn’t understand humans or doesn’t give a shit. But eating your body… Shit man.

    I wonder why Homura likes Madoka so much.

  37. Black.Phantasm Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 2:11 pm

    Oh god. OH FUCKING SRS

    Kyuubei you UY$&*$Y*#&^%#*&&*%#*&%#!%&#

    -pant pant-

    Assuming ‘incubator’, i have a thought that grief seeds contain despair and corruption – and if Kyuubei is ‘Mephisto’ as in Faust, being a devil could mean souls full of despair and torment are nourishment for them….perhaps he needs grief seeds in order to use his magical power in order to create more MGs, seeds of grief seeds. :I

  38. Komidol Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 2:23 pm


  39. DJd Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 2:42 pm

    I miss Sayaka already…. I wonder if there’s any chance at all of a happy ending at this point?

  40. sage Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 3:09 pm

    @Komidol: You mad?

  41. T.K. Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 3:14 pm

    Wow! This show just took the empty spot that Code Geass left, I watched this entire episode with my jaw wide open from awe…

  42. ryvrdrgn14 Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 3:17 pm

    “Well, there is that one theory floating around…


    Whoa, that’s deep. o_o

  43. ryukiloveshomura Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 3:53 pm

    *****SPOILER so don’t read beyond this if you haven’t finished this episode!*****

    oh yessss. i was right!!!!! sayaka did become a witch!

    and now I think homura is future madoka

  44. FX102A Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 4:30 pm


    Not just Evil, but Canibalistically Evil!

    Seriously, am I ever going to watch an episode of this without shouting “Evil!!!” evrytime I see the little white rat?

  45. DocAstaroth Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 4:37 pm

    Okay, guys, I have one important question after this episode?

    Why does QB exist? Was it created? Is it human evil itself? One of the Elder Ones (Gen is a fan of Lovecraft?

    Whatever, I think after this series I need a Yotsuba-Anime to get the grief out my system!

  46. Whitezero Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 4:41 pm

    after this i decided to watch this anime thanks to your blog. Specially since Gen Urobuchi(fate zero) and Kajiura are in staff

  47. Kurogane Shiroikaze Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 4:43 pm

    @DocAstaroth: No one knows yet of his true origins, except for Homura. No point debating that now, just wait for the show to reveal it when it happens.


  48. Kagekyuubi Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 5:06 pm

    This episode literally had me dropping during that scene with Kyubee. Twice. All I really want to do right now is just punch that little rat thing for violating his own corpse that way and being such a #%$#$. If anyone happens to find or make a game where I can vent out this feeling, please be sure to notify me.

  49. Kagekyuubi Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 5:07 pm

    *dropping my jaw that is. Sorry for double posting.

  50. ahelo Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 5:18 pm

    So mahou shoujos mean witches in english now? AHAHAHAHAHA I’M BREAKING DOWN.

  51. Beruchi Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 5:23 pm

    I don’t know whether someone mentioned this before, but IMO the girl in the OP looks like a gentle Homura with pink hair.


  52. Kurogane Shiroikaze Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 5:34 pm

    It’s been pointed out before somewhere. Looks more like a different version of Madoka more though.

  53. Kaisos Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 6:02 pm

    Well that was certainly a huge improvement over last week.

    I’m starting to wonder who Homura really is now. I’m beginning to suspect she might be another character in disguise…

  54. ryukiloveshomura Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 6:58 pm

    Homura = Madoka

    the end!

  55. Suning Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 7:10 pm

    wow strong series i wonder if the start of OP is when she finally turn into a mahou shoujo (maybe by herself) after seing everyone dead
    also on the very first episode seems to be the future and homura couldn’t stop the contract (reason she goes to the past? )

  56. EvilDevil Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 7:26 pm

    incubator has its roots to the word incubus L. incubo “nightmare, one who lies down on (the sleeper),” from incubare “to lie upon” (incubate). You can make a lot about it, but there is no doubt that the word describes QB very well, he is a demon, a nightmare, and he is collecting grief seeds to create something…

  57. Organics Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 8:13 pm

    In more ways than one it might not matter what Hitomi’s intentions were. We also got a very disturbing line from Sayaka at the end hinting that she did something horrible to a friend. Could she just be talking about her cruelty to Madoka? Or did she really… Oh no…

  58. Benigmatica Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 9:00 pm

    And now… My brain is full of screw on this episode!!!

    I must say, this magical girl show made by SHAFT has left me in despair!

  59. BLkun Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 11:31 pm

    Dear God so basically this thing is like the “Tall Man” in cute animal form. But instead of silver orbs he creates “witches”. Angus Skrim would be proud.

  60. Yamibakeru Said,

    February 25, 2011 @ 11:36 pm

    The plot twists are predictable, but well executed. That’s my impression of this series so far. And honestly, that’s all I ask out of an anime: to do things well. I like what I see, and I really loved this episode where they once and for all cleared 2-3 SPECULAH in one fell swoop.

  61. R Said,

    February 26, 2011 @ 12:46 am

    If Madoka has the power of a god, and she becomes a witch…

  62. Sahara Frost Said,

    February 26, 2011 @ 1:02 am

    @Kurogane: It may not seem like it matters right now, but I get the feeling it’ll prove to be very important later. I doubt the animators would have spent seemingly pointless minutes (not just seconds) of the episode showing Hitomi and Kyosuke talk (only at the very end of which did they show Sayaka). It just doesn’t seem like a show that would waste time like that. So I’m thinking it may be key to the way Sayaka’s story ends. It will take no small jolt to bring Sayaka back to reality and so discovering that she is the one who has made a mistake…that may do it. Once again, just a thought. It really might not matter in the end lol. :P

  63. Zzz... Said,

    February 26, 2011 @ 1:43 am

    Hey does anyone know the name of the choral OST that was playing during Madoka and QB’s conversation?

  64. Zzz... Said,

    February 26, 2011 @ 2:06 am

    Incidentally here’s something that’s always been on my mind…

    I believe the word Maho have in traditional Japanese always indicated a darker form of magic, usually involving calling upon darker spirits (since traditional shamanism doesn’t label things good/evil so much as pure/impure) for cursing and vengeance.

    Correct me if I’m wrong here.

    So the whole mahou shoujo concept up until now have really largely been a bastardization and misinterpretation of what it really should be…

    …until now.

    So despite my feeling of loathing for QB overall, I can’t help but thrill at his last lines in the episode.

  65. Pitchblack Said,

    February 26, 2011 @ 3:02 am

    @Kyubey: Dear Incubator, I’m flabbergasted by your genious evilness! I’ve mix 120 images of you in a video where you appear alone or at least as the major object of the screen from the episode 1 to 8 (SPOILERZZZ). Those eyes ( ◕ ω ◕ ).

  66. Shiden Said,

    February 26, 2011 @ 5:26 am

    @Yami – Predictable to who? For a casual viewer, there’ve been lots of twists that may have caught them off guard. Even the genre savvy have been caught off guard by some of the plot twists so far (Mami, the Soul Gem actually being their soul, Incubator being in on the witch-making like this, etc). General feelings of “Incubator is evil” doesn’t come close to equaling “I saw exactly this coming,” and the fact that it’s continually surprising me like this is one of the reasons I love this series so much.

  67. drmchsr0 Said,

    February 26, 2011 @ 5:40 am

    THERE IS ONLY ONE THING TO DO. Actually, three things.

    *dons the DecaDriver.


    Number 1.


    Number 2.


    Number 3.

    Cue Music Riders rocking off to all the Macross 7 songs ever. WE WILL SAVE HER WITH THE POWER OF SONG.

    And then Nekki Basara shows up and proceeds to sing Sayaka back to normal.

  68. JELEINEN Said,

    February 26, 2011 @ 9:11 am

    I think in the original time line, Homura transfers to Madoka’s school and ends up being her best friend. The bad thing happens prompting Homura to make a contract and wish to go back and save Madoka. She wakes up in the past and transfers to the new school, but this time she’s already a magical girl and remembers everything. With her new time manipulation powers, it’s quite possible that she’s made multiple tries leading to a sort of Groundhogs Day situation. It’d also explain her coldness (afraid to get close to Madoka again). I can’t say I thought up this theory, but I think it works thematically and fits with the currently known facts.

    As to what happens in the future, since we know that the level taint in a soul gem is tied to how much magic is used, I think it follows that Madoka having a universe changing level of power will pretty much lead to her becoming a witch very quickly.

  69. Yamibakeru Said,

    February 26, 2011 @ 10:23 am


    Yeah, I see where you’re coming from, if I just switch off my speculative notions, I WILL get surprised by some of the plot twists, but if you actually think about it, a lot of things are hinted at quite clearly. I mean, I’m sort of surprised at people who were taken aback by the revelation of a Soul Gem. To me, it was called a SOUL Gem for a reason, you know? But that’s what I meant by well-executed, man. The twists are good, and are, as you say, fully possible to catch one off-guard like that. Let’s just enjoy it. I haven’t done so for an anime in this manner for quite some time.

  70. Kurogane Shiroikaze Said,

    February 26, 2011 @ 11:51 am

    @Sahara Frost: If only Gen was as forgiving as that ;_;

    @Zzz..: OST’s are not out yet. No one knows the track titles except for the production staff.

    @Shiden: Well some of the more obvious twists have been predicted a long way back in episode 2-3, but you gotta to admit, the execution is top notch. Even though one sees it coming, it still manages to hit hard.

  71. Da5id Said,

    February 26, 2011 @ 12:02 pm

    Is there a Meduka Meguca Episode 3?

    Also, Kyubey. Fuck you.

  72. brittlemind Said,

    February 26, 2011 @ 1:13 pm

    Did Sayaka kill those two guys on the train?
    Damn. Don’t wanna think about that now.
    execution was excellent. even if one was spoiled by the speculah, it still hits hard. can’t wait to see the end of PMMM.

  73. foshizzel Said,

    February 26, 2011 @ 1:50 pm

    Best episode so far! Lol at the Kyubey clone eating the remains of the other hahah was like dammmnnn someone is hungry! I think we all cheered when Homura filled him full of holes.

    Also big development with Homura! She can actually be emotional! That and finally figuring out she isn’t from this time period. So where is she really from?? The future,past or parallel world! Can’t wait to find out more.

  74. Missingno Said,

    February 26, 2011 @ 2:29 pm

    I been pondering about what Kyubey meant when he stated that Homerun already killed him once, initially I thought it was at the that time in the first episode, but it’d make no sense if it occurred there for why would he respawn just to be attacked again. Thus I came to the conclusion that the “first” time that homerun killed Kyubey was when she killed “Charlotte”, it was never stated that only one Kyubey can exist at one dimension nor what form it could take. However I might just be grasping at straws and this is another issue that can be solved with occam’s razor.

  75. Sahara Frost Said,

    February 26, 2011 @ 3:11 pm

    @Kurogane: Ah…you see, this is my first time watching a Gen anime…guess I should be prepared to face the cold, hard facts, hm?

    @Jeleinen: Hmmm…that’s an interesting thought. Wouldn’t it be interesting if it turned out that in the original timeline, Madoka was in Sayaka’s position?

    @Missingno: That makes sense to me. I think you might be onto something there…

  76. Kherubim Said,

    February 26, 2011 @ 5:26 pm


  77. Beruchi Said,

    February 26, 2011 @ 5:29 pm

    Homura from the future propably had a similar relationship to future Madoka as present Madoka with Mami and an even harder ending to it (Madoka turning into a witch and destroying the universe or something)

  78. MartianMage Said,

    February 26, 2011 @ 10:23 pm

    When there are thousands of people speculating about this it’s not surprising if there are speculations that got it right. If this show was really that predictable then we wouldn’t have shittons of speculations going wrong too.

  79. Benigmatica Said,

    February 26, 2011 @ 11:12 pm

    Say, Kurogane… It seems that if the first scene of Episode 1 comes true, we’ll be having a depressing downer ending.

    Unless if Homura and Madoka (unlikely) would stop it.

  80. Boo Said,

    February 26, 2011 @ 11:42 pm

    So, something that I’ve noticed and haven’t read about that anywhere so far. This episode showed us that witches were mahou shoujo before. There was an episode earlier that a grief seed was “about to hatch” – differently from Sayaka, that we saw her soul gem exploding with the witch transformation. What would it be? The grief seed was thrown away, or what? It simply hatched and ate Mami.

  81. thatredsky Said,

    February 27, 2011 @ 12:10 am


    Maybe the Grief Seed was thrown away after a Puella Magi used it for purification. Then it absorbed negative emotions and turned into a witch.

    I don’t know, just speculating.

  82. Kurogane Shiroikaze Said,

    February 27, 2011 @ 12:42 am

    >>Is there a Meduka Meguca Episode 3?

    Haven’t heard of one. Would like to know if there is one too.

    Screw that, just found it. Here: http://imgur.com/VThh0 (Episode 2 is here: http://imgur.com/NgnPQ )

    @brittlemind: I think she probably did. At that point she was already half-Witch.

    @foshizzel: leaning more towards parallel timeline/world because of Kyubey’s choice of words with her.

    @Benigmatica: I know. Well, it’s looking more and more likely.

    @Boo: That’s a good observation there. Well, Kyubey did explain Witches are born from negative emotions, but after knowing that Grief Seeds are actually corrupted Soul Gems, episode 3 suddenly doesn’t make much sense.

    The only way I can think that happened is that Kyubey planted that Grief Seed there intentionally, or there are other ways that a Grief Seed can be created/formed. Maybe it’s a familiar finally absorbing enough power to become a full-fledged Witch? But then, if so, it’s weird that Kyubey has to contract Puella Magi to create more “Witches” if they can self-propagate.

    I guess we’ll see later.

  83. Suning Said,

    February 27, 2011 @ 2:40 am

    i keep rewatching OP over and again (thought i think that helps nothing lol) but it does increases the theory that madoka can turn into a magical girl by herself not making contract with QB since it didn’t show she using a soul gem to transform.
    and maybe that is what homura is expecting too (that’s why she told to tell herself she is not useless.

    damn it why it not thursday yet

  84. qwerty Said,

    February 27, 2011 @ 2:48 am

    In reference to the apparent discontinuity between Sayaka’s soul gem turning into a grief seed and the grief seed in episode 3 “hatching” you should consider that there are possibly multiple ways for a witch to spawn aside from a corrupted soul gem.

    Remember that once a witch is defeated the seed is used to absorb negative emotions from soul gems, those negative emotions being what causes the soul gem to eventually turn into a grief seed.

    Then we see QB “eat” the grief seeds. It’s likely that he then plants these grief seeds in various locations where they continue to feed on surrounding negative emotions and “hatch” into new witches.

  85. awesomeness Said,

    February 27, 2011 @ 6:11 am

    grenades… guns… explosives…

    Maybe Homura is hiding a nuclear device in that shield of hers.

  86. Saber Said,

    February 27, 2011 @ 6:29 am

    If i remember correctly Kyubei said that when magical girl defeat a witch she MAY find a grief seed so there must be 2 types of witch: normal 1 from negative emotion and special 1 which is fallen magical girl.

    And my theory about Homura:
    in the future (or may be in the past) Homura turned into witch and Madoka sacrifice herself to save Homura so being indebted of Madoka, Homura desperately trying to prevent her form turning into magical girl.

    Sorry if there is any1 post abt this above though,

  87. Boo Said,

    February 27, 2011 @ 6:48 am

    If that is so (actually, is it much likely), there will be no reasons anymore to defend QB as “not evil”, regardless of any different morals he might have compared to humans.

    I just want that ultimate goal of him not to be something lousy and illogical. If it is, this show would go totally downwards in my concept, even if the plot twists were executed this well – after all, that’s the whole point of the series.

  88. Dude Said,

    February 27, 2011 @ 11:32 am

    I can imagine Kurogane so traumatised by this episode that he forgot to blog about other series.

    Such as Charlotte “Ichika no Ecchi” Dunoa.

  89. amado Said,

    February 27, 2011 @ 1:37 pm

    maybe what kyubey means is that it takes more than a corrupted soul gem to turn magical girls into witches.

    as kyubey(or mami) said, magical girls are born from hope(the girls who dont know the truth) while witches from misery(girls who find out or just end up really depressed).

  90. Kurogane Shiroikaze Said,

    February 27, 2011 @ 8:46 pm

    I am pretty sure Kyubey has never mentioned anything about Puella Magi being born from hope. That should be all Mami. Uh, oops, fuck myself. Not that he cares about it or anything.Probably keeps up with that ruse to actually make it easier to attract girls to become Puella Magi.

  91. Arya Said,

    February 27, 2011 @ 10:23 pm

    First Madoka Soundtrack will be out on April 27th. 2 months to go ><

  92. Sahara Frost Said,

    February 28, 2011 @ 3:28 am

    @Kurogane: This is what Kyubey said: http://regalias.tumblr.com/post/3393917916/if-magical-girls-are-born-from-wishes-then

  93. South Said,

    February 28, 2011 @ 4:19 pm

    I wonder most about the black cat in the op. I keep thinking it’s Homura somehow haha, but I think it will be important.

  94. ryvrdrgn14 Said,

    February 28, 2011 @ 6:55 pm

    The manga QB is not so creepy. It’s too cute. :(

  95. skyhack Said,

    March 1, 2011 @ 8:52 am

    Homura seems to know all of the Puella Magi by name, and about their pasts. This is more than just “doing her homework”, it would seem. She called Kyoko by name at their first meeting, and got the response “Have we met somewhere before?” she’ not just some irregular. Maybe a repentant witch, or familiar.
    Ahh, what a story, a fine piece of work. I just hope they don’t Gainax the ending ala Eva.

    This one goes on the shelf next to Higurashi if it comes to the U.S.

  96. Dream Said,

    March 1, 2011 @ 1:34 pm

    I don’t think Madoka will be an “original” Puella Magi or anything. Remember the first scene? Madoka has a dream, and it kinda looks like a premonition to me. Like what will happen when the Walpurgsomething comes.

    Then again, this show is f*cked up, so it could be anything.

  97. Yamibakeru Said,

    March 2, 2011 @ 2:18 pm


    Actually, when you think about it, taking Sayaka as a case study, a wish and a curse can very often be the same thing. So once again, Salesman QB wasn’t lying about his product.

  98. Kurogane Shiroikaze Said,

    March 2, 2011 @ 10:58 pm

    Yeah, that black cat has been teasing us for so long. Eight episodes and no sign of it yet.

    @ryvrdrgn14: Manga Kyubey is more…. cute yes. But it’ll probably be more terrifying later. If it follows the anime’s outline.

    @Yamibakeru: I think we all know that by now.

  99. Suning Said,

    March 3, 2011 @ 3:40 am

    >>Kurogane Shiroikaze Said,

    March 2, 2011 @ 10:58 pm

    Yeah, that black cat has been teasing us for so long. Eight episodes and no sign of it yet.

    well not sure but homura does said she is “No longer human anymore” maybe …

  100. Haruhi_Suzumiya Said,

    April 13, 2011 @ 6:01 am

    Holy crap. This is the 100th comment. I think the first 100th comment of all Kurogane history. That is just how epic Magi madoka magica is.

  101. RoninAquila Said,

    April 25, 2011 @ 12:09 pm

    QB punching Bag, Hmm?
    Too bad they don’t make them; but doing this would be equally theraputic wouldn’t it?

  102. Anime Review: Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica Episode 8 | This Euphoria! Said,

    October 13, 2011 @ 9:23 pm

    […] “Oh god, Kyubey. Oh god. What have you girls done? WHAT HAVE YOUR POOR GIRLS GOTTEN YOURSELVES IN TO?! Well, shit finally hits the fucking fan here as Sayaka finally melts down and Kyubey confirms his evil nature. God damn, even if I saw this coming, it still hits pretty damn fucking hard man. ” – Kurogane’s Anime Blog […]

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