There’s no way my little sister can be this selfish! 05

Ore no Imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai

So.. Kirino gets in to a scrap with Ayase when she finds out about her hobbies. What does she do about it?

Ore no Imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai

Tell Kyousuke to take responsibility for it. Jesus, at least take some responsibility for your own hobbies in the first place, Kirino. Are you really expecting big bro to save you every damn time you do this shit onto yourself.

That being said, it did result in Kyousuke getting a lot of great lines this week. With gems like:

Ore no Imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai

Kyousuke finally comes clean.

Ore no Imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai

Ore no Imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai

Actually, this line should have been “This doujinshi is the proof of love between me and Kirino!”

Ore no Imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai

Ore no Imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai

Ore no Imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai

Siscon end confirmed.

Ore no Imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai

Yup, just as planned.

Even Daddy Kousaka gets a nice line in this week.

Ore no Imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai

Tsundere dad? Or tsundere dad. It’s even worse when you think of the possibilities you could do with that sound bite. I mean, whip up some EVA MAD’s and insert that line as Gendou’s… hurrrrrrrr

On the other hand, Ayase wasn’t nearly yandere enough as I first expected. I mean, the only real yandere parts this episode was this scene at the beginning…

Ore no Imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai

… and her constant threats to beat him to death.

Ore no Imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai

Via text only now I might add, because she’s extremely disgusted with him.

Well… as for Ayase’s fervent rejection of “otakus”; I really don’t want to add to that except maybe that I wouldn’t be friends with such a person in the first place. Joking/ribbing about a friend’s hobby is fine, but outright rejecting their hobbies is just not what a real friend should do. Then again, Kirino’s a pretty selfish person who likes to be in the popular crowd dissing otakus AND in the real otaku crowd as well, so I guess it’s really her own damn fault in the end. Sigh.

Overall though, I think this was a better episode than episode 3, in terms of the drama and the LULZ WERE HAD numbers. To be honest, family finding out isn’t as bad as friends finding out. At least with family, there’s still a limited space for the information to flow out, but “friends” could make your social life a real hell if they ever felt like it. That’s why I guess it’s so hard for people like us to make friends with others. Especially if their definition of friendship includes “bullying the fuck out of you by teasing about your hobbies”. Some “friends” just aren’t worth keeping.

As for the incest-bashers… well, by now it should be clear the show is EXACTLY as it is named. Better live with it and enjoy the weekly trolling or just forget about the show being a “deconstruction of the incest trope etc. etc.”. Because there’s no way in hell that’s gonna happen by now, ( ゚∀゚)アハハ八八ノヽノヽノヽノ \ / \/ \.


  1. Aoi Said,

    November 3, 2010 @ 8:14 am

    Wait, isn’t that incest thing supposed to be Kirino and Kyousuke pretending to be lovers for whatever reason?

    Am I late to something?

  2. shaoron Said,

    November 3, 2010 @ 8:44 am

    That’s why I guess it’s so hard for people like us to make friends with others. Especially if their definition of friendship includes “bullying the fuck out of you by teasing about your hobbies”. Some “friends” just aren’t worth keeping.

    That’s why you counter-troll them.
    Back during my college days, i’d freak people out by playing “Koi no Mikuru densetsu”, “The lumberjack song”, “Never gonna give you up” and the “Desulitimate combo”.
    If you can’t handle the insanity, get lost!

  3. Asel Said,

    November 3, 2010 @ 10:27 am

    I still want to know why would Kyousuke go as far as destroy his social status for a selfish little sister. And why he yells so freaking much.

  4. anon Said,

    November 3, 2010 @ 10:33 am

    Did not or did ayase already know that Kyousuke lies his incestous confession of love?

    Usotski no Onii-san

    or did she mean that Kyousuke gave her the wrong idea?

  5. suguru Said,

    November 3, 2010 @ 10:37 am

    All I could think about this episode was how Ayase was a failure as a human being to just cast Kirino, her “best friend”, aside after seeing one doujinshi. If Kirino had just pushed Ayase away at the end of the episode and said something along the lines of “when you’re ready to be a real friend, I’ll be waiting” it would have been epic…

  6. Athos Said,

    November 3, 2010 @ 11:16 am

    I’m having trouble isolating Kyousuke’s main motivation here. I mean, I’m all for self sacrifice, but this is a little… unrewarding. My interpretation is that he just wants Kirino to stop looking down on him.

    That one scene where Kirino finally confronts Ayase but doesn’t quite win her over, when he glares at Kyousuke to do something I was like “What the fuck do you expect him to do? She’s completely right!”. Turns out it’s just a matter of how low can you get.

    Actually, couldn’t this whole deal been avoided if he just claimed ownership of the doujins and friends back at the comiket? I guess he wasn’t ready to throw away his pride -just- yet.

  7. manga Said,

    November 3, 2010 @ 11:49 am

    For me, I wanted to know what crawled up Ayases behind when she found out Kirino had a hobby she had kept quiet about. The face change, the attitude change, everything screamed pscyho. Almost anyway. She even hurt Kirino.

    Now I don´t remember the whole sequence with Kirino telling Kyousuke to take responsibility so I can´t comment on that.

    But I don´t think Kirino is selfish. A tiny bit sure but not as much as Ayase. But given the age she´s in and how popular she is. She has to be selfish. And it´s because she is liked by so many and that she likes her friends so much that she is in turmoil.

    The third episode was best. “Without these you´d be perfect” as she was told.

    And I can think of a reason why Kyousuke is taking a lot of blame for his sister… and it isn´t a pleasant one when considering the read he is heading. The only thing left is for the other part to change. Which I think that she will.

  8. DocAstaroth Said,

    November 3, 2010 @ 11:57 am

    You know, I think I understand this show now:

    It´s an allegory of the relationship between modern Japan society (Kyousuke) and its youth (Kirino), who is confronted by the pressure of the old traditions (Their father) and the UN (Ayase)!

    … Yeah, right.

    I have to say, I don´t like how Ayase was portraited here… I mean, my rule of thumb by Yandere and Yangire is: “You can´t trust in the mental sanity of a teenage girl who uses “uso” more than three times in ONE sentence!”

    On the other hand, tsundere dad was lol, but no surprise for me. Everyone knows that the tsundere attitude is hereditary. Look, Kyousuke is clearly a Tsundere of the B type, too!

  9. Silent Minstrel Said,

    November 3, 2010 @ 12:23 pm

    To be fair with Kirino, she did try to take responsibility of her hobby and resolve her conflict with Ayase by herself. It failed at the end until Kyousuke took it upon himself, but at least she did do something.

  10. Kurogane Shiroikaze Said,

    November 3, 2010 @ 3:21 pm

    Actually, it’s rather sad that Kyousuke had to be the “bad guy” in order for Ayase to Kirino to make up. Sure, she did try to do something at the end, but still it had to be resolved at her brother’s expense…

  11. NovaJinx Said,

    November 3, 2010 @ 3:51 pm

    As for what went into Ayase, dawningblue posted this on my entry of the episode:

    ‘Both of Ayase’s parents have been heavily involved in anti-anime/anti-otaku campaigns. She’s been hearing at home about how “dangerous” and “perverted” otaku are since she was a little kid.’

    Too bad AIC decided to leave these elements out and make it look like Ayase just cut Kirino off because she didn’t want to associate herself with an otaku, with no regard for their friendship. This is in no defense of the show or AIC, make no mistake – it is entirely the studio’s responsibility to make the show stand on its own two legs. If that doesn’t happen, let there be nothing in the way of mocking it for everything it’s worth.

    As for why AIC did this, I can think of a couple reasons. I’ve heard the production crew has had their staff members switched along the shows run, which quite possibly has contributed to the inconsistency and lack of vision so apparent in the show. It’s like a 16 year old Final Fantasy fanboy writing his first fantasy epic – without a plan, without a vision, without any idea what’s going to happen beyond the next five pages. Another reason is that OreImo is pandering to the otaku crowd to such degree that it’s afraid of portraying its target audience in any negative light. We know how those 2ch morons tend to understand things.

    Actually now that I think of it, Ayase’s reaction was very much like those cases of otaku suddenly changing over to burning hatred for Kannagi when Nagi turned out to be “second hand”. Maybe it IS a clever portrayal of the losers it’s pandering to after all ;)

  12. Son Gohan Said,

    November 3, 2010 @ 3:57 pm

    Not to mention that Kyousuke’s self-sacrifice didn’t exactly resolve the situation. Ayase didn’t suddenly approve of eroge and doujinshi, she just shifted the blame from Kirino to her brother. She is living a lie and she’s not a true friend to Kirino.
    Meh, what a disappointing episode this was.

  13. ~xxx Said,

    November 3, 2010 @ 4:59 pm

    Dad is also a tsundere?
    well, at least he is very known of kirino’s situation.

    Ayase is really denying the ‘other’ part of Kirino.
    I hardly never knew that Kyousuke is *actingly* love his sister… at least he is always concern.

    well, Ayase is not her friend!!

  14. alex Said,

    November 3, 2010 @ 5:28 pm

    Guys, don’t hate Ayase, she’s a yandere, just deal with it and give her some love :)
    And looks like the only normal person is mom.
    Dad turning tsundere is like to catch him by crossdressing, now he became just a pussy :)

  15. ewok40k Said,

    November 3, 2010 @ 5:31 pm

    oh lol
    I’ve been getting Higurashi vibes all the episode:
    -Uso! Uso da!
    -ominous cicada screeching in the background
    -didn’t the log phone call between Kyosuke and Ayase remind anyone of those long calls bettween Keichi and Rena?

    other than Yandere craziness:
    lulz for Tsundere Dad (its not like I’ve searched the data for your sake…)
    poor Kuroneko… being ignored like that
    As for Kyosuke, he simply loves his sister – and for now not in the incestous way everyone thinks, he wants to help her and protect her at any cost. This ends badly for him on many occassions. To all the other girls in the show, please can one of you help Kyosuke and take him away from spoiled imouto? Onegai!!!

  16. Shin Said,

    November 3, 2010 @ 8:38 pm

  17. Mentar Said,

    November 3, 2010 @ 8:42 pm

    Reposted from Animesuki:

    I’m a closet Ayase shipper, so take my words with a grain of salt. To kick off the discussion, I’d like to list what in my opinion she is NOT (from the other thread):

    1) Ayase is not a Yandere!

    This is popular and AFAIK even on a wiki, but IMHO fairly off the mark. Being a Yandere requires two things: A fanatical devotion to someone who you’re convinced you’re destined to be with (that’s already questionable – fanatical devotion yes, but destined to be with? not sure), and a violent-dangerous reaction towards the object of desire when it becomes evident that this devotion isn’t going to be reciprocated. Which is a flat-out no. All that Ayase did was severing her ties and walking away in pain. No violence, no threats.

    In the end, she was threatening Kyousuke with death, should he make moves on Kirino. That, however, was not directed against the object of devotion, but against people who might threaten it. Call her obsessed and overprotective, fine. But I don’t think Yandere fits.

    2) Ayase is not batshit crazy!

    No sir, she is not. Everything she did is perfectly reasonable and making sense, as long as you keep in mind that a) she’s infatuated with her idolized view of Kirino and b) conditioned to reject otakudom. If you start from there, she is quite reasonable. Heck, she’s even talking to the pervert oniichan, and she’s accepting evidence as genuine which is contradicting her beliefs. That’s more rational than 90% of all people I have political discussions with

    3) Ayase is no controlling stalker!

    Nope. Neither did she stalk, nor is she controlling. If she were the latter, she’d try hard to influence Kirino to drop her hobby. To monitor when Kirino was doing what, trying to “forbid” her from doing unacceptable stuff. Instead, she cut ties and walked away.

    In the end, I consider it sad and bitter irony that the only girl who immediately treated Kyousuke kindly and with respect, without suspicion but rather convinced about the general goodness of man, is now turned into a bitter enemy over Kyousuke’s protective lie. This is the macabre part: By repeatedly shielding Kirino against the injustice of society, he turns into the sandbag target even for those people who are most compatible with him by disposition (like Ayase). I’m looking forward to how the novel plans to gradually remedy this and resolve this tragedy. Kyousuke deserves much better than he gets.

  18. alex Said,

    November 3, 2010 @ 10:58 pm

    Ayase is a yangire
    – people just say yandere to yangires because it’s easier

  19. ewok40k Said,

    November 4, 2010 @ 2:42 am

    @ Mentar:
    quote:In the end, she was threatening Kyousuke with death, should he make moves on Kirino.

    now all it takes is another “accidental fall” scene to trigger the death sentence…

  20. alex Said,

    November 4, 2010 @ 3:19 am

    @ewok40k: “now all it takes is another “accidental fall” scene to trigger the death sentence…”
    – that would be the best thing that could happen in this show
    imagining this, I like Ayase even more :)
    This show can be only saved by wincest or a nice boat ending…or both

  21. ewok40k Said,

    November 4, 2010 @ 4:06 am

    I dont expect either of those, simply because the novels are still ongoing. Still I will be watching the show for clashing personalities, if for no other factor. Pass the popcorn and watch the feathers fly! Kirino better take the knife for her brother if Ayase goes killfrenzy. I also happen to really like both Kuroneko (I love cats, I like goths, and I love her mutual tsundere with Kirino) and meganekko childhod friend (again I love meganekkos, and I like childhood friends), so watching them is refeeshing change from Kirino’s haughty selfishness. Plus pearls like tsundere dad (TM) are making this show really worth watching.

  22. sadakups Said,

    November 4, 2010 @ 8:23 am

    “Tell Kyousuke to take responsibility for it. Jesus, at least take some responsibility for your own hobbies in the first place, Kirino. Are you really expecting big bro to save you every damn time you do this shit onto yourself. ”


  23. Mentar Said,

    November 4, 2010 @ 8:43 pm

    There’s no indication whatsoever that Ayase would go on a knife-stabbing spree. I think alot of folks treat her like one of the Higurashi girls because of the “usousouso” scene.

  24. TroytheSkull Said,

    November 4, 2010 @ 11:43 pm

    I have a strong feeling the next eps going to be the best eps ever.

  25. Kurogane Shiroikaze Said,

    November 5, 2010 @ 7:37 pm

    Hey Mentar! (Spoiler Warning!)

  26. haitechan Said,

    November 14, 2010 @ 10:27 am

    Kirino pisses me off but now Ayase pisses me off even more. True, Kirino is a selfish spoiled brat but Ayase is much worse. The fact that she idolizes Kirino and can’t seem to accept the “real her” because it doesn’t match to her idolized image is pretty stupid. Kirino isn’t perfect, nobody is and she should learn to accept people like they are. Gah, why am I raging over a fictional character? Moving aside, I feel really sorry for Kyousuke, he should just get with Manami already and stop paying atention to his bitchy sister and tarnishing his reputation. But because the title indicates it, this heads for siscon route. At least is better than Kyousuke x Ayase, I used to like her a bit but I don’t anymore.

    PD: I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought of the tsundere dad and the USO DA! reference.

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