Angel Beats! ends

Angel Beats

……………………….. what?!!

Angel Beats
Uh, how did you arrive here BEFORE Otonashi did when he died first?

Angel Beats
Oh god, this can be sooooo taken out of context. Otonashi, the Heartless.

Angel Beats

Angel Beats
And finally the last confession…

Angel Beats

…. and thanksgiving….

Angel Beats

… and disappearance.

Geez, that’s an amazingly shitty way to end the show. Maeda sure doesn’t know what pacing is even if it was a 380-pound albino gorilla wearing the Brazilian jersey emblazoned with the words “PACING” and blowing a vuvuzela to each ear. So many questions left unanswered, so many possibilities unexplored, so much key frames wasted.

Okay, enough of the pacing jokes. Seriously, this is probably the most disappointing show of the season, given the pre-airing hype over the last year or so and the “star-studded” names behind the project. Good job, Maeda. Good job, P.A. Works.

Bah, well, it’s just as well the show flopped. Of course, there will probably be quite a number not sharing my sentiments but hey, each fandom to its own taste and blind worshiping. Well, it wasn’t as if the show totally failed, there was a few positive aspects to it.

On the top of that list (which is pretty short I might add), is the music. Girls Dead Monster isn’t perfect throughout, but when a song shines, it really shines (literally for Shine Days in this case). Songs like Little Braver, Crow Song, My Song, Thousand Enemies and Ichiban no Takaramono (just came out though) are still on the top of my playlists. My Soul, Your Beats and Brave Song are also nice pieces as well and overall the musical aspect of the show is probably the most polished part of the show.

Coming behind that is episode 10, which is probably the only episode of the whole series to elicit a feeling of loss and grief for me. Truly a case of where KISS (Keep it Sweet and Simple) works perfectly and Yui’s character added on with her backstory still hits hard, especially when playing Ichiban no Takaramono. The rest of the show’s “tear-inducing” scenes just didn’t work at all for me. Yuri’s story was more rage-inducing, Naoi’s was pretty gay, Hinata brought it on to himself, Kanade’s one is well… random and Iwasawa’s story just feels purely unluckiness than tragic. The rest well, they’re all blanks and space fillers haha.

And finally, the random humor element, equally enjoyed and criticized by all, was pretty funny when it worked, as the rocket chairs showed us. T.K. was also consistently funny as heck as he is random, but wasn’t really utilized much. Kanade’s fixation towards Mapo Tofu was cute but also disjointed too, as did her random Sonic Blades as well. It was good yes, but it really ruined the poignancy of some episodes as well. Truly a double-edged sword.

I really don’t feel like adding to the criticism of the show so I won’t add that here. I would most prefer to focus on the positive aspects but hey, we have the comments section open for debate! In the end I’d like to say that Angel Beats! is entertaining but not a great show. The sad thing is? They could’ve fixed a lot of the negatives but instead they just decided to take the route of “hell, i’ll just do what I want and people will still buy my shit at the end”.

Liked: Yes, but the bad outweighted the good in the end.
Rewatch: Probably not (except episode 10).

51 Comments

  1. bluemist Said,

    June 27, 2010 @ 10:14 pm

    Yeah seriously, this is better off a visual novel where we can have detailed stories, not a bunch of randomness like this. The premise was silly, the execution silly, the whole anime is silly. It’s like the producers just all met one day and decided to put Haruhi-looking characters in purgatory and never really planned how to go at it.

  2. NovaJinx Said,

    June 27, 2010 @ 10:17 pm

    Didn’t get it? TOO DEEP.
    /maedadefence

  3. Nayrael Said,

    June 27, 2010 @ 10:18 pm

    The show was pretty decent to me (what I expected from it (never understood the hype)). It would no doubt be better as 24 episode anime or even better as a VN tough.

  4. butterfli Said,

    June 27, 2010 @ 11:12 pm

    Either after you die, your soul wanders pointlessly on Earth and Kanade’s soul just ended up in the afterlife before Otonashi or that little plot hole is just something viewers will have to overlook to enjoy the show. Overall, I thought it was a good ending, despite the >9k plot holes. Otonashi got his memories back when he was close to his heart when he napped on her chest (score!).

  5. ewok40k Said,

    June 27, 2010 @ 11:18 pm

    sadly this needed 24 episodes… and I guessed right, Otonashi, like the unknown Programmer, was a bug in the system caused by memory loss
    I’d also like to point out that in other worlds time may flow differently… sadly I dont have Kotomi Ichinose’s theorema with me :P
    And I loved newly shy Yuri, and Kanade smiling at the sight.

  6. bobbierob Said,

    June 27, 2010 @ 11:22 pm

    the ending felt……tacked on cuz kanade’s explanatioin for being in the afterlife world didn’t make sense

  7. Nestor Said,

    June 28, 2010 @ 12:10 am

    Too much potential wasted…why the afterlife is digital themed, how did most of the cast died, what’s their regret, what happened to all the NPCs, who is the previous programmer, why did Kanade arrived at the transit-life before Otonashi, was this world a transit before reincarnation or purgatory before heaven…I could go on, but fortunately I’m too sleepy to continue…too much energy wasted reacting to Negima 294′s spoiler…

    I wish Kotomi-chan would explain…

    Ah well, I watched this just for Kanade anyway…and Kana Hanazawa.. . That reminds me, I hope Asobi ni Iku yo! is gonna be decent…

    Btw Kuro, what summer series are you gonna review?

  8. julian_ex Said,

    June 28, 2010 @ 12:14 am

    if got VN, i recommend that they remove most of the male character. they juz bit too much

  9. Tsubasamoon Said,

    June 28, 2010 @ 12:35 am

    Did anyone watch the little scene after the ending credits they met after they were reborn again. That made me like the ending.

  10. Rhine Said,

    June 28, 2010 @ 1:15 am

    It was far too short. Too much was crammed into too little time, the sudden switch of story after 9 was completely jarring. Not enough build-up for Yui, no build-up for Otonashi and Kanade, which made the ending feel totally random to me. A shame, really.

  11. Yyi Said,

    June 28, 2010 @ 1:36 am

    “Uh, how did you arrive here BEFORE Otonashi did when he died first?”

    Oh man…I didn’t suspect anything wrong with this scene until you pointed it out.
    *Slaps self for not realising the obvious*
    …and I thought the ending was good. -.-”

    I’d agree for most part of it: Pacing was bleh, Characters were bleh, Humor didn’t get to me either; didn’t get who the hell was sitting at the computers and editing the npcs nor the element of love with the creator. Too many unanswered plot holes.

    And yeah, the redeeming factors were really the songs and backstories. Iwasawa’s one was pretty good imo, especially the scene before she disappeared. Yui’s wasn’t really a ‘hit’ for me, but I’d say it was decent. Ichiban no Takaramono is stuck in my head now (the piano’s version is pretty good, go check it out).

  12. //\ Said,

    June 28, 2010 @ 1:41 am

    While a longer run would help, I feel that the concept is too weak regardless. Angel Beats! is just a mishmash of arbitrary fan hooks, and as Maeda is prone to doing, they were a lot more concerned about manipulating viewer emotion than presenting compelling content.

  13. Hoshiko Said,

    June 28, 2010 @ 1:49 am

    I think exactly the same. I was a bit sad at the ending, but Otonashi’s confession bothered me. I mean, they used the spontaneous coupling with Yui and Hinata, and it worked pretty well, cause I did feel sad and even cried with that episode (and also became a total fan of that couple), but in this occasion I felt like… “Uh, okay”. And I actually didn’t feel like shipping that couple anymore– the whole thing was just weird, and I kept thinking “they’re trying too hard to make people sad”, and it didn’t work for me either. The epilogue was cute, and the anime overall was good, but…

    And now that you mention it, yes, I also want to know how the heck did Kanade get to that world before Otonashi if he died first.

    The highlights of this anime are definitely Episode 10 and the rocket-chairs, so I’m glad you mentioned them.

  14. Clockwork_Deicide Said,

    June 28, 2010 @ 2:59 am

    “Uh, how did you arrive here BEFORE Otonashi did when he died first?”

    The souls don’t necessarily arrive in chronological order. This is the afterlife after all, it exists outside the bounds of normal space and time. Or hell, Ootanashi’s soul is weird anyway. Technically it shouldn’t even be there. Maeda loves fucking with time. Remember Clannad reset?

    I still enjoyed it, even though myself and everyone in existence is in agreement that it should have been longer. More time to delve into the side characters. More elaboration. etc.

    Oh wait. I get it. Kanade got his heart. The shows called Angel BEATS. And the logo is one of those heart monitor things. It all makes sense.

  15. Beruchi Said,

    June 28, 2010 @ 3:21 am

    Well lets just say, the show didn’t reach the viewers expectations…
    Hopefulle the 14th episode will reveal at least one of the 1000… open questens XD

  16. Kaisos Said,

    June 28, 2010 @ 3:32 am

    @Clockwork: The Clannad reset worked because a) that was the whole point of the show and b) time travel.

    This… this just makes no sense.

  17. darkchibi07 Said,

    June 28, 2010 @ 3:34 am

    “Bah, well, it’s just as well the show flopped.”

    ….yeah, about that….

    http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-06-23/eva-2-is-no.1-bd-in-4th-week-angel-beats-sells-15k+on-1st-day

  18. FlameStrike Said,

    June 28, 2010 @ 3:37 am

    Kanade is love. Yui was another plus, and TK was great too. Other then that the pacing was, as people have said, HORRIBLE. You can tell that Jun has never written for an anime before. Well given that he always writes LONG ASS VN’s (Clannad took my like 60 hours+ to read) I can see how he’d have trouble switching to a 13 ep anime show haha. The greatness of the music was apparent too. That probably has something to do with Jun retiring to focus on music.

    Overall a pretty good show that I liked, but it could have been better. Still I got my KANADEEE fix so it’s all cool. Needs more TK though.

  19. Kaisos Said,

    June 28, 2010 @ 4:33 am

    @darkchibi07:

    Sales =/= quality. People are idiots.

  20. Haesslich Said,

    June 28, 2010 @ 7:25 am

    @darkchibi07 – given that logic, Endless Eight’s DVD’s sold at that level, so Haruhi S2 was the best anime series ever, and E8 was excellent?

  21. Nestor Said,

    June 28, 2010 @ 9:06 am

    @Haesslich: Proof that sales doesn’t always represents quality, ESPECIALLY in the case of E8. And before any die-hard Kyoani fans start defending them with the “But Disappearance is awesome” argument, that doesn’t change the fact than E8 STILL sucked

    Clockwork_Deicide Said, “This is the afterlife after all, it exists outside the bounds of normal space and time.” —> Fate Stay Night’s Throne of Heroes reference?

    Looking back at the series, I think the real problem is that there’s too many characters for a 13 episode anime. Some characters like Chri-whatshisname only has small roles that could’ve been given to one of the main casts. It’s like Maeda was thinking “hey, I think this character archetype is funny” every once in a while and made each one of them a character…

  22. Skribulous Said,

    June 28, 2010 @ 10:29 am

    @Kaisos

    @Haesslich

    The companies only see results, not art. They sell, that’s what mattered to them.

  23. ironysteeth Said,

    June 28, 2010 @ 11:27 am

    Personally, I think the series was just pushed for time. I woulda liked to see all the core member’s past lives. Too lazy to look up names, but the Sword chick would been cool to see her background, TK’s of course (although I find it very entertaining to go with Kuragane’s notion of him being a god, so GOD just left when everyone else did), and maybe the lead guitarist’s as well (she seemed to be the new leader of the band after the old singer left).

    I probably sound like an apoligist and honestly this explanation does seem a bit out there, but there are possibillities as to why angel got there before her donor. First off, I dont think it was explicitly said that this “school” was the first stop they took in the after life. Second, who says soul travel’s velocity is equal to others soul travel velocity? Coulda been many factors involved in that? Maybe extent and type of trauma determined how fast you got to the “school?”

    Yeah. Looking back on that, I really am making excuses. I would like to say I enjoyed this show. Flaws indeed abound, but I think for all the inconsistancies, This show shined more often than many other animes out there.

  24. Kurogane Shiroikaze Said,

    June 28, 2010 @ 11:31 am

    >>It’s like the producers just all met one day and decided to put Haruhi-looking characters in purgatory and never really planned how to go at it.

    Some people think that IS actually the whole point of the show. I personally quite agree with them myself too.

    >>Otonashi got his memories back when he was close to his heart when he napped on her chest (score!).

    That was amazingly cheesy-retarded.

    >>I’d also like to point out that in other worlds time may flow differently…

    Yeah, but it feels extremely retarded they introduced a time paradox twist at the very fucking end of the show.

    >>tacked on cuz kanade’s explanatioin for being in the afterlife world didn’t make sense

    Hurr yeah. So she was saved thanks to Otonashi’s heart transplant but still died later? Oh Maeda why u liek to torture your female characters so much ;_;

    >>Btw Kuro, what summer series are you gonna review?

    Dunno, quite busy with adjusting to working life and loligolfing. Well, you will see the posts when they are published.

    >>Did anyone watch the little scene after the ending credits they met after they were reborn again. That made me like the ending.

    Yes, but it was pretty fucking lame way to end it all. So did they die and got reborn again? One thing is for sure, Otonashi IS already dead by the end of the show. The lack of a heart pretty much makes that clear… unless Maeda puts in another fucking time paradox.

    >>Ichiban no Takaramono is stuck in my head now (the piano’s version is pretty good, go check it out).

    Looping it over 9000 times already. Waiting for OST next month for the piano version.

    >>Angel Beats! is just a mishmash of arbitrary fan hooks, and as Maeda is prone to doing, they were a lot more concerned about manipulating viewer emotion than presenting compelling content.

    Fucking seconded.

    @darkchibi07: Equating sales figure with quality is like saying England will win the World Cup because they have the most fans here in Malaysia. Okay maybe that was a bit too low.

    @ironysteeth: I don’t mean to be rude but your excuse of “soul travel velocity” and “first stop” nearly made me laugh my ass off in the office…

  25. avexmode Said,

    June 28, 2010 @ 11:42 am

    Otonashi’s soul was trapped in the Warp before arriving there. Since stuff like time have no meaning in the warp, he would’ve arrived there after several years after he died.

    Actually I making this things up. At least it’s better than Maeda’s :p

  26. Anise Punter Said,

    June 28, 2010 @ 1:26 pm

    Loligolfing?

    I miss TK. That is all.

  27. Eirias Said,

    June 28, 2010 @ 3:56 pm

    Reincarnation is the worst goddamn way to end any anime to have ever been done. Bar none.

    Oh, we’ve evoked cheap emotion from our audience by killing off one of our main characters. Now let’s make it even more maudlin and awful and stupid by having our audience imagine a happy ending.

    Fucking pissant cop-out is what it is.

  28. NovaJinx Said,

    June 28, 2010 @ 4:22 pm

    This show was supposed to be about TK.

    It failed because it wasn’t.

    Goodbye, Wild Heaven.

  29. Kurogane Shiroikaze Said,

    June 28, 2010 @ 6:02 pm

    @Anise Punter: http://pangya.ntreev.net

    @Eirias: You know what’s the shittiest part about that clip? They didn’t make it clear what really happened and WE’RE supposed to infer what we like from it. This would have worked if there wasn’t already OVER9000 plot holes in the story so far.

    And you know what’s EVEN shittier? Apparently the DVD’s will all be released with a drama CD. Most probably an attempt to cover all the plot holes up and give some exposure to the minor characters, so for those who ACTUALLY want to know and be sure, there’s going to be 7 DVD’s to buy and listen. Yeap, commercialization at its best!

    @Novajinx: >Implying Maeda would write a story that focuses on a random english-speaking dude as the protagonist instead of being the awesome sidekick character.

    Knockin’ on Heaven’s Door, comrade.

  30. Shirogane Kazeki Said,

    June 28, 2010 @ 8:50 pm

    err…. i already watch many anime like this but this is the first time i feel something is missing…. but what is that???
    because when i see the ending it’s remain me about tomoya when nagisa is die….
    or when ayumu is sad because nagisa is already died…..
    jeezzzz….

  31. Rockmanshii Said,

    June 28, 2010 @ 9:55 pm

    One thing everyone agrees with is that the music of the show is pure awesome.All Hail GalDeMo.

  32. K_S_ Said,

    June 28, 2010 @ 10:13 pm

    Apparantly there will only be three drama CDs, on the 1st, 4th and 6th DVD/BD.
    Just listened to the first one. It was totally unrelated to the anime, so no plot holes were explained. Instead we get a special full of running gags. But it WAS funny, I can’t deny that^^

    TK street dancing on a drama CD where there is no image is still awesome, even without a video o.O

    Oh, and Kanade/Tenshi isn’t on this drama CD, so some will be disappointed -.-’

  33. Chris Said,

    June 29, 2010 @ 1:15 am

    Apparently if you are suffering from memory loss, the best way to cure it is to sleep on the bossom of a young female. Mmm. This I like.

    Well, Angel Beats! is definitely very random as you said…as for the time paradox, I think a lot of us were confused as well…some of the theories that others have came up include stuff like “Otonashi donated his organs, so he had to wait for his organs to die before he could enter into the afterlife”. Possible. “Otonashi is a bug in the system, that’s why he appeared later than Kanade.” I think I’ll settle for that bug thing. Wasn’t very well explained by Maeda.

    Still, I can’t help but love the KanadeXOtonashi ending, even though I laughed out loud when Otonashi went “KANADE!!!@@@!” and groped wildly in the air for her after she disappeared. If you noticed it, right before the credits rolled, you can see something shiny that’s rising into the sky, which indicated that Otonashi decided to move on, instead of doing the “waiting for the girl he loved to die again so that they meet in the supposedly Afterlife again” routine, similar to that guy who created Angel Player.

    Ah well. At least there’s the soundtrack. Ichiban No Takaremono…ugh!! The perfect song to accompany Maeda’s sneak water work attacks! Can’t help but listen to Crow Song, Alchemy, Thousand Enemies and the likes as well…but My Song is my definite favourite…just listening to that emotion that’s channeled through the song…wow…though I must admit I might not necessary understand the lyrics…

  34. Dul Said,

    June 29, 2010 @ 2:50 am

    Great review, was going to write about how well i felt it was balanced but i cant think of much to say about it right now , so ill just say it was a very good review.

    my thoughts: It was really good, i felt it could have been a much better anime in terms of pacing if they had fleshed out the minor characters more and maybe taken the show over to next season (summer) with 26 episodes.
    But then i remind myself of shows like Darker than Black or Ergo Proxy where they just kept going with the story and it felt more filler than substance. Also how they merged humor and drama probably would have gotten too much by the end with people being annoyed by it not choosing one and sticking with it. Eighter way even with the awkward pacing, i immensely enjoyed it.

    On the humor/drama aspect. I always get reminded of shows like Scrubs or Mr.Bean, that humor is very close to drama in a sense. You can laugh at something but in the turn of a hat youll be sobbing. I remember Scrubs tackling this by emphasizing the music, this is also possibly why Angel Beats focused so heavily on the music and why the polished it to such an extent, probably never know. I for one did laugh and i did cry, but im a softy.

    Plot holes? there were plenty of those, characters they didint emphasize, why Kanade could use those “Guard Skills”, relationships that could have been developed more thoroughly, why the world was how it was, how they made guns out of dirt etc.etc.
    But i kinda feel like that wasent the point. It wasent supposed to be a deep and complex metaphysical story about the afterlife. It was a simple highschool sort of coming of age, coming to grips with life, playing the hand youre dealt, accepting life kind of shows. And i enjoyed this.

    I think what it comes down to is how much you invested in the show and what aspects of it. It wasent one of the top shows i was following this season so i always watched about 4 episodes at a time and didint read up on the fandoms surrounding characters like Kanade and TK, and judging by the mixed reviews and my great personal enjoyment of the show, i think that was the way to watch it. Dont go in expecting much, you might just be leaving with more.

    anyway Kurogane, love your blog, hope you keep at it.

  35. Sousuke Said,

    June 29, 2010 @ 4:00 am

    You know after episode 10 and the foreshadowing that was played at earlier i was honestly expecting a real tear jerker as all the characters disappeared especially at the end, but….thats the end? SERIOUSLY? I hate sad endings but that was just like….crap, that last episode felt like it was really tacked on, if anything they should have probably jus ended it with episode 12 when yuri accepted her life, at least that was SORT of a tear jerker.

  36. Kurogane Shiroikaze Said,

    June 29, 2010 @ 6:57 am

    @K_S_: It wasn’t that funny to me. What a waste of time.

    @Chris: Nothing was properly explained by Maeda. And yeah, that scene had me in stitches the first time I watched it. The second time round was just pretty sad in the “so bad it’s terrible, why i am watching this again” way.

    And yeah, Ichiban no Takaramono at least gave us another tear-jerking track for all those sad moments in life ;_;.

    @Dul: Thanks, since everyone else pretty much wrote about the negative aspects, I just decided to do one relatively ‘positive’ instead.

    @Sousuke: Really?

  37. Algester Said,

    June 29, 2010 @ 8:44 am

    it was apparently maeda wrote too much that the P.A staff team doesnt know how to put it all together in a 13 episode anime <_< go figure

  38. Tenryu Said,

    June 29, 2010 @ 10:50 am

    consider the concept that if there was such a thing as reincarnation that a soul does reincarnate, but does not necessarily in the order of ‘time flow’ experienced by ‘mortals’ then the “Kanade arrived before Otonashi makes perfect sense.

    what i mean is , for example, a person dies in 1989AD, that person’s soul reincarnate and is born again in 500AD, dies again and reincarnates in 5230AD.
    Therefore the Soul is timeless.

    such a concept was potrayed by Traci Harding in two sets of her trilogy novels.

  39. Beruchi Said,

    June 29, 2010 @ 3:37 pm

    that would be grate, to be reincarnated in the past and regaining memories of one of the former lifes, you would know about world wars and so on! XD

    btw, imo Otonashi x Kanade was as random as Hinata x Yui both hadn’t any special reason to it…

  40. edru Said,

    June 29, 2010 @ 5:20 pm

    otonashi was a bug in the system, he wandered without his memories until he stumbled upon yuri

    this was somehow mentioned in ep 12

  41. Lehq Said,

    June 29, 2010 @ 7:47 pm

    One thing I like about say, Clannad for example, is that when they do comedy, they focus on that, and when the story moves towards serious scenes, they maintain the sentimental vibe throughout. In a way, some of scenes kind of killed the established ambiance in Angle Beats. I guess 13 eps really is too short since they’re cramming so much stuffs into it (I guess they’re just trying to go for as a wide a demographic/ appeal/ audience etc).

    On the other hand, I actually liked the fact that the world is never fully explored or explained – it’s not like there’s an overly abundance or use of deus ex machina, so I’m fine with it. Besides, I see this show as being more concern with trying to get across drama, the world they were in was more of a setting to explore the drama rather than the main point of the plot, so I’m not too bothered with the lack of explanation of the world.

    Nevertheless, with high production values, interesting concept and likable characters – Angel Beats certainly is enjoyable.

    Also: Clothespin!

  42. Charles Said,

    June 30, 2010 @ 2:44 am

    Kurogane-san,i heard there a unaired special episode of Angel Beats in volume 7 od DVD/Blu Ray of Angel Beats.Hopefully its a full ending of Angel Beats which hopefully show life of Otonashi and Kanade new life.

  43. Minor Squabbles Said,

    July 1, 2010 @ 1:09 am

    EXPLANATIONS AND COMMENTS

    @reviewer
    In obvious conclusion, plotholes in a 13-episode series with a need to explain unclear plot details are will always puzzle the critics. Well not saying you shouldn’t criticize Angel Beats!.

    20 episodes would have been enough, even more so a VN, especially if it had a Yui Afterstory, would be the most awesomest thing Key would do.

    “Uh, how did you arrive here BEFORE Otonashi did when he died first?”

    I haven’t read about souls since like 2 – 4 years ago so I don’t remember clearly but if I remember correctly some religions or beliefs (i.e Buddhists’ [I think it was Buddhists] concept of 28 levels of hell) don’t indicate a specific timeline for souls at all. At one point souls can come and go with a lot of delay, i.e some souls stay in hell and are not reincarnated yet compared to some that are reincarnated faster due to lack of sins or some sort (I can’t remember things I haven’t reread for a couple of years).

    Besides, the clear system by which this universe works is too ambiguous to dissect. We have no clear references aside from the hypothetically-made from the characters themselves and no ‘God’ was present in the whole story (on-screen-wise, at least)

    Thus I think it was Kanade or was it Otonashi who theorized that his soul just “stumbled” upon that place because he had amnesia. Before stumbling you have to wonder what his soul was doing, in that respect it could have been that he was long dead already but his soul was still lost. In comparison no one came with such heavy amnesia that they had to resort to HYPNOTISM. Before the hypnotism and the sleep-on-Kanade-ultimately-sleeping-on-my-heart scene, he really could not remember ANYTHING and thus the theory is not far-fetched at all.

    The BIGGER question to ask is THE ANGEL PLAYER, which has absolutely ZERO details or explanations, a lack of detail which I lament due to lack of episodes. A VN with no word limit would be much MUCH more welcome.

    Aside from Yui’s story, I think Otonashi’s story was tied with her’s for the best/most touching in any form at all. Second place Naoi I guess (Yuri’s = enraging, as said though I didn’t get angry and Hinata’s was more like pity-inducing, Iwasawa was tragic but lacked personal touch) and third should be T.K just because he’s T.K.

    16 – 19 episodes would have fitted perfectly, 20 – 26 would be filled with some fillers, or helping and disappearing + relationship fillers, which wouldn’t really be boring every once in a while (but the second or third time dubious).

    “One thing everyone agrees with is that the music of the show is pure awesome.All Hail GalDeMo.” @Rockmanshii

    two friends of mine don’t like it, one of them commenting it’s with false notes, or was it off-beat. I simply couldn’t believe my ears back then. What I was hearing from someone who wanted to be a musician. The mere fact that he asked that if I hadn’t known him would have led me to believing that he was musically inept.

    @novajinx

    Didn’t get it? TOO DEEP.
    /maedadefence

    /MAEDEDEFENSE
    /EXPLANATIONON
    /UNLIMITEDMAEDADEFENSE

  44. Minor Squabbles Said,

    July 1, 2010 @ 1:41 am

    tl;dr everyone agrees that the constant mood juggling displayed by (probably) the director was awfully-done (although I don’t think there’s a good way to do that) and I don’t disagree. Really could have been a great show with more episodes and thus more moments to distribute the focuses on moods. Maeda Jun certainly isn’t awful at writing good scenes and scripts as displayed by CLANNAD but lack of episodes is clearly a huge reason

  45. Angel Beats! 13 [Completed] « O-New Said,

    July 3, 2010 @ 8:05 am

    [...] probably wasn’t enough time to fit all of this in; as Kurogane said, “Maeda sure doesn’t know what pacing is even if it was a 380-pound albino gorilla [...]

  46. Avisch Said,

    July 3, 2010 @ 1:58 pm

    “Uh, how did you arrive here BEFORE Otonashi did when he died first?”

    Fucking loved this, cause it was always on my mind.
    I have two theories.

    1. Fate/stay night thing. Same reason Archer can be summoned despite being a hero from the future.

    2. PLOT

  47. Algester Said,

    July 9, 2010 @ 10:08 pm

    or the term of wandering soul can be taken into further context lol for example if you think that since otonashi has a bit of a lower form of regret (he already knew the answer to his regret even before dying) it would take time for him to end up in the place that is the setting of angel beats as for kanade she has her higher reason why she came way before otonashi did (and that is about otonashi’s heart giving her a bit leased of life and she forgets to say her thanks [though shallow it cant be fulfilled even if she was alive cause she does'nt know whose heart she received for transplant ever to begin with]) go figure ending up in the setting of angel beats in the first place must the the form of regret before dying if its too shallow it will take time for them to end up in a specific “circle” IE school but if it is too deep when you die you would most likely end up immediately to the specific “circle” where you would belong too there maybe other places such as offices but you never know.

  48. Burgerz Said,

    July 12, 2010 @ 11:02 am

    Finally some reviewer who doesn’t blindly worship this show :D
    I totally agree with you on this review, and i am not going to bother going into my dislikes on this show because i don’t feel like arguing with insane followers.

    Anyways I just want to point out the fact that anime these days don’t have to explain things properly anymore :) Take this part for example “Uh, how did you arrive here BEFORE Otonashi did when he died first?” We have a reply where someone makes this up: “The souls don’t necessarily arrive in chronological order. This is the afterlife after all, it exists outside the bounds of normal space and time.” Got to love anime fans xD
    (PS: not making fun of whoever had this reply, just pointing out that fans like to make up their own answers to try to make sense of things that don’t)

  49. HiMyNameIsHiMyNameIs Said,

    July 26, 2010 @ 6:37 pm

    well i wanted to say personally i loved this anime. Sure some over exaggerated stuff here and there, but like most people said, mostly the good stuff.

    @Burgerz Well if you think about it, nothing in this world really makes sense, i guess you can say im trying to defend anime. But, this really makes us think doesnt it?

    And yes i also believe the ending was uber changed, and ‘tacked on’, Kanade is so out of character. Too many changes. They should’ve at least added in 2 fillers between episodes.

    Buncha Einstein Bullshit we coming up with to explain this xD; Probably why many animes with explanations get less shit?

  50. Giovanni Said,

    September 12, 2010 @ 12:44 am

    I loved watching this show…but yeah, that time paradox did bother me a little…before I heard that plot crater, for a while there I was hoping Kanade was actually Hatsune’s alter ego…yeah, that would have been great for me :3

  51. Shifty Sanders Said,

    September 27, 2010 @ 5:32 am

    Anyone else find it pretty heartless that Kanade would have rather gone on to the next life than live in eternity with Otonashi?

    Plus, all the characters didn’t need to leave after Yuri destroyed the computers.

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