The Seven-nee-chans are still the best <3

The time loops are one thing, but another one are the last fight with the blue and red truths!

Well, by the way:

That is your opinion about Beatrice now, guys?

I´m amazed how the author managed to make me feel bad for her, when she lets herself impaled by Battler´s blue truth and begs him to kill her.

I really don’t know how they will animate Episode 4. Is really damn confusing.
The prime example I’d say is Ange talking to Maria……..who somehow connects to Maria before 1986, which somehow causes a time-loop of sorts. My head still hurts.

Digdri:
“The problem is just that you don’t know how to take this stuff or its presented as vage opinions so without background you don’t read much into this until later…. and there is even more subtle stuff hidden in the text.”

Yeah, this is motivation enough to replay the episodes.
I noticed that Natsuhi’s mirror is mentioned in Episode 1. Foreshadowing it’s use in Episode 2.

As for episode 1, I think WH hasn’t finished their revised translation for it, AFAIK. So far patch is still at 4.1, but I can’t re— oh wait they did release it already. God dammit. Anyways I read through their AS thread and they said they’re gonna fully release the edits after Episode 5 is done, so I’ll wait for that.

@Gin: Small bombs was a small laugh, geddit?

I feel that the main trick in Umineko is its misdirection. The EPIC stuff (including Beato’s last line in ep. 4) seems just too obvious to be really taken as key components to the mystery. And we still don’t know the real ‘rules’ to the universe and the game between Beato and Battler. Ep. 4 seems to indicate the secret lies in Battler’s identity and history, but that seems a bit too easy.

Just to be clear, did you mean to say that you doubt a decent anime adaptation can be made of Ep. 4? Because I very highly doubt any studio could capture the heaviness of Ep. 4, and DEEN has a snowball’s chance in hell of not completely QUALITY-ing it up.

I should grab the latest translation patch from Witch-Hunt and go through Episode 1 again. Apparently according to Ryu07, there’s a lot of significant clues in that episode about the inner workings of Umineko’s mystery. At least it’ll help pass the time until Episode 5’s patch.

@DiGiKerot: Bern sure was Ryu07s way to mess with the mind of the Higurashi fans. All seems like a continuation of the ideas behind Higurashi but in the end nothing fits like you thought. And even if you ignore Rikas character there is still much speculation about this connection between the Bernkastels in both games…. after all its just a huge distraction because the connection to Higurashi is really quite irrelevant to the development of the plot. Bern and Lambda are characters which were already defined enough by their actions in this series universe. IMO there is only one thing to believe in: Bern is a massive troll who likes to mess with everyone plans.

@Westlo: “Also Bern’s starting to show some warning signs”
Thats what I like about this games. The foreshadowing is placed really clever and working on so many levels ™ :D
Bern not only tell you she is a cruel witch who first and foremost wants to crush her enemies / fight her boredom in the EP1 tea party. But she even talks about how Battler has to “expose Beatos heart to rip it apart” metaphorically speaking (see what he did here). She says so much more about Battlers game in this part that you cannot even pin up after the 5th games its not even fun :P
Even the talk in Kinzos study before the phone call in EP1 about Marias and Rosas bad relationship (speculation that she never loved her / saw her as an obstacle) was spot on.
The problem is just that you don’t know how to take this stuff or its presented as vage opinions so without background you don’t read much into this until later…. and there is even more subtle stuff hidden in the text.

Also Bern’s starting to show some warning signs… while watching the Tea Party in episode 5 of the anime two things stuck out to me. Bern’s “I am the cruelest witch” and Battler’s “You’re nothing but half an existence wanting people to believe” (or something like that) comment to Beatrice.

It’s going to be a long wait until chapter five, though.