“Better 25 years late than never”: Part 2

Up till episode 11 now.

  1. Max is awesome. Man, Takehito Koyasu is EVERYWHERE Wow, Sho Hayami sounds EXACTLY like Takehito Koyasu . On the other hand, Kakizaki is… annoying. I really hate the “talk big” types.
  2. Lynn Minmay’s really not what I expected her to be. After the Miss Macross episode, I realize she’s like those girls in American comics where you have to constantly win her with flowers and chocolate. So this was the “ideal woman” during that time. I’m suddenly so glad I’m not born in those times. Hairstyles continue to freak me out as well.
  3. Speaking of Miss Macross, I lol’ed at the Zentradi reactions when they were tapping in the the TV broadcast of it. I wonder how much longer until they discover the wonders of self-pleasure? Also, I now realize how much Macross Frontier has been paying homage to the original series.
  4. Also, episode 11 totally defines “culture shock” when Lt. Hayase went and kissed Ichijyou in front of their captors. Them Zentradi really have a boring culture eh.
  5. Lynn Minmay’s debut performance was okay, but I felt Ranka’s rendition was better. I guess the better production quality edged it out.


  1. Nanatsuya Said,

    May 6, 2008 @ 11:09 pm

    100 Rules of Anime: #17 – Law of Transient Romantic Unreliability- Minmei is a bimbo.


  2. Nanatsuya Said,

    May 6, 2008 @ 11:10 pm

    100 Rules of Anime: #17 – Law of Transient Romantic Unreliability- Minmei is a bimbo.

  3. primeparadigm Said,

    May 6, 2008 @ 11:19 pm

    Bah! You have yet to see the best rendition of “My Boyfriend’s a Pilot”, Ranka and Minmay don’t hold a candle to it. I won’t say whose version it is, It’s later in the series, you’ll know it when you see it.

  4. Ithekro Said,

    May 7, 2008 @ 12:30 am

    Yes, Max is awesome. He’ll be more awesome later.

    On the other hand, I’ve only seen this series as “Robotech”.

    Mmmm, Lt. Hayase……

  5. Xellos-_^ Said,

    May 7, 2008 @ 12:53 am

    Minmay is the most complex character in Macross history and probably one of the most complex in 80s. Her character under went several different changes in the series and more then anyone else had the most growth (although Hayase and Hikaru is right behind). I would pay very close attention to her character as the changes are very easy to miss as her character is quite flaw. DYRL, while a great movie really cut out a lot of Minmay’s character development and if you get a chance got hunt down the Macross 2012 Flashback music video. The music alone is more then worth it not mention a few scenes where it brings closure to the characters.

  6. Nemo_N Said,

    May 7, 2008 @ 12:55 am

    I don’t think Lynn Minmay is the ideal woman of that time but rather a portrayal of a girl idealized by fans and guys who fall for her looks. I mean, she LOOKS like the ideal girl of those times, so great and pure and perfect in the outside, while in fact she is, IMO, a bitch.

    Mmh, I wonder if this is the root of my bias against Sheryl…

  7. Kaioshin Sama Said,

    May 7, 2008 @ 1:06 am

    Max is voiced by Sho Hayami, not Takehito Koyasu. I know, they sound similar. Even I’ve confused them.

  8. Kurogane Shiroikaze Said,

    May 7, 2008 @ 1:09 am

    Oh shi….! You’re right. It’s not Takehito Koyasu. God damn, they sound exactly the same.

  9. Guncannon Said,

    May 7, 2008 @ 1:50 am

    Spoilers! Kakizaki – *shot*

  10. manga Said,

    May 7, 2008 @ 1:53 am

    Yay, you like the original :)

    Macross is quite good actually. Brings up a lot of stuff to think about really.

    And now you see all the good stuff as well in macross frontier.

  11. wildarmsheero Said,

    May 7, 2008 @ 2:22 am




  12. otou-san Said,

    May 7, 2008 @ 3:43 am

    “Lynn Minmay’s debut performance was okay, but I felt Ranka’s rendition was better. I guess the better production quality edged it out.”

    Production quality in general isn’t awesome in SDF. I remember being really into the space battles as a kid (with Robotech of course), but watching it more recently I realized that a bunch of the space battles are recycled. The same footage will get old fast.

    And speaking of that and Minmay, “Watashi No Kare Wa Pilot” will get reeeeeally old pretty soon. But I don’t think she’s the bitch that everyone makes her out to be. I think one of the things that made it so revolutionary as a show was the sophistication of the characters — Minmay is young, confused, just wants to sing, etc. etc. Wait till Kaifun shows up. What a hippie a-hole.

    All the Minmay haters projecting onto Sheryl should remember how things went down, and take note of who works in a Chinese restaurant in the current series.

  13. Xellos-_^ Said,

    May 7, 2008 @ 4:39 am

    “All the Minmay haters projecting onto Sheryl should remember how things went down, and take note of who works in a Chinese restaurant in the current series.”

    And who is currently a officer in the army and not a idol >_>

  14. Haesslich Said,

    May 7, 2008 @ 8:02 am

    otou-san: She’s not a bitch… but she did kinda grow spoiled REAL quick over the course of a few episodes. She was childish, she was naive… and then she became a real diva, of the type we saw in Episode 1 of Macross F, minus Sheryl’s later-shown redeeming qualities (hard-working, determined, more emotional maturity, professionalism). And then she follows Kaifun’s lead, which turns her into an INCESTUOUS diva… and yes, those two did look good together, which is one reason I hate it when people say a pair should be formed because they ‘look good together’, even though that relationship was as dysfunctional as any in the series.

    And Ranka is, for better or worse, not the Miss Macross winner and not currently spoiled. Nor does she have an onii-san complex like Minmay did, nor does she share the same But neither does Sheryl, despite her initial bad impression – both of them combine personality traits of the OTHER competitor for Hikaru, along with their own quirks (Ranka has Misa’s self-doubts without the life experiences which tell her she can do well, Sheryl has Misa’s hard-working nature but also has her temper).

  15. Ithekro Said,

    May 7, 2008 @ 9:55 am

    I remembeed. Max is probably the most awesome side character in anime. Likely the best pilot in the galaxy and he has no ego like most fighter jocks. He’s basically “Yeah, its only my job. You do just fine too, commender. Don’t worry about it. Oh hey, look at that girl….” -slap myself before spoilers- You’ll see. He’s that awesome.

  16. Haesslich Said,

    May 7, 2008 @ 10:04 am

    Ithekro: he has an ego… but he doesn’t let it run away with him. He knows he’s good, he admits he’s pretty good and that Hikaru isn’t as good… but doesn’t let it get to his head. Which is probably why he and Milia… and I’ll stop here before revealing a spoiler.

  17. otou-san Said,

    May 7, 2008 @ 12:15 pm

    Xellos — right you are.

    Haesslich — I’m with you on every one of those points, although I don’t want to talk too much on that for fear of spoiling Kurogane’s Macross fun.

    At any rate, I think that’s what makes Macross F really cool for fans. Seems like they took some elements, events, and character traits from SDF, tossed them in a bucket, shook it around, and poured out the characters we’re looking at now. It should keep us guessing while still getting to enjoy a feeling of familiarity.

  18. Haesslich Said,

    May 7, 2008 @ 1:28 pm

    otou-san: One quote from Army of Darkness explains Minmay’s personality transformation real well, as far as I’m concerned:

    “You found me beautiful once.”
    “Honey, you got real ugly.”

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