Madarame x Sasahara is…

Genshiken II

… extremely disturbing. 20 mins of Genshiken yaoi is overkill. Kugayama got seriously slimmed down a lot though.

Fangirl delusions are scary. They really are. *sinks in to a corner, traumatized*


  1. lk Said,

    November 8, 2007 @ 11:46 pm

    how are you any different?

  2. ik Said,

    November 8, 2007 @ 11:58 pm

    I found it hot :V And hilarious for how out of character is was.

  3. shaoron Said,

    November 9, 2007 @ 12:40 am

    i had to skip all the yaoi section… (sorry but i just can’t stomach them…)
    i finished the episode in less than 10 mins…

  4. deftoned Said,

    November 9, 2007 @ 1:00 am

    Despite the yaoi, I thought it was a hilarious episode. Equal opportunity fanservice perhaps? It did provide an Oguie-in-bathtub break in the middle though. :D

  5. Kabitzin Said,

    November 9, 2007 @ 1:15 am

    I have no problem with it, especially considering how much shoujo-ai there is in most series. It’s hard to be against one without being against the other. Definitely OOC and hilarious though.

  6. cdeeee Said,

    November 9, 2007 @ 1:26 am

    If you have read any boy’s love you know how hilarious the whole thing was. I especially liked the crying and melodrama. Great episode.

  7. Hinano Said,

    November 9, 2007 @ 3:47 am


  8. shie0917 Said,

    November 9, 2007 @ 4:16 am

    traumatized, my butt! who do you think you’re trying to kid, lol. i’m sure you were screaming for more! lol~ moe~~ i can’t wait to watch this ep!

  9. Haesslich Said,

    November 9, 2007 @ 6:58 am

    Methinks the Kurogane doth protest too much as well. But yes, fujioshi are very, very frightening when encountered en masse, which unfortunately happens more often at cons than not.

    Of course, it’s not as bad as going somewhere after someone’s started promoting doujinshi inspired by the Lucky Star ep with Comiket (Sosuke and Gauron doujins are somehow even more wrong than some of the old NGE stuff)…

  10. DS Said,

    November 9, 2007 @ 9:20 am

    “Fangirl delusions are scary.”
    Or at least anime producers’ ideas of what fangirls imagine.

  11. korosora Said,

    November 9, 2007 @ 2:52 pm

    that last yaoi scene was too much.


    it was hilarious until that point.

  12. TheBigN Said,

    November 9, 2007 @ 9:14 pm

    I agree with Kabitzin. Double standards are silly in this case, and the action wasn’t even explicit. :P

    I can’t imagine that the voice actors weren’t laughing when saying these lines and acting that way. :3

  13. yuki-chan Said,

    November 9, 2007 @ 10:02 pm


  14. Dumbo Said,

    November 10, 2007 @ 2:34 am

    I don’t agree that it qualifies as revenge of the yuri victims. Yuri is hardly ever this suggestive or explicit. Maybe most of you missed the last few yaoi scenes because they were too dark? I don’t remember any Yuri scenes in non-hentai anime in which the girls fondled each other below the belt or inserted body parts into each other nor was anything like that ever implied. Hugging and french kissing would have been fine by me. They showed far less in the previous episode. The other reason that I wasn’t amused, it’s simply too long. The initial scene that started it was really funny but the whole yaoi plot was the same joke repeated ad nauseum. I’m pretty sure most females enjoy yuri scenes (I’m not talking about hardcore lesbian stuff) just as much as guys. So fairness is not the matter anyway.

  15. Manami Said,

    November 10, 2007 @ 7:20 am

    lol… yaoi…
    i would skip it all (lol)
    lov yuri

  16. Des Said,

    November 10, 2007 @ 8:15 pm

    “I’m pretty sure most females enjoy yuri scenes”

    …uhm, what makes you say that?

  17. Dumbo Said,

    November 11, 2007 @ 12:32 am

    “…uhm, what makes you say that?”

    Let’s just say I don’t give a damn about the others. Yuri is a wide field anyway, it starts with “You’re under Arrest”, traverses “Maria-sama ga Miteru” and ends with “Simoun” (hentai excluded of course). Yaoi never refers to strong manly friendship but only gayish if not down-right explicit stuff.

  18. Des Said,

    November 11, 2007 @ 1:18 am

    Frankly, I don’t care about your attitude toward yaoi or yuri. (in the same sense as you “don’t give a damn about the others”.)

    What I wanted to know is what makes you say that most (emphasis on this word) females care about or even enjoy yuri. Sure there are some..but most?

  19. Dumbo Said,

    November 11, 2007 @ 2:06 am

    Well, I’ve never heard any women say “Yuck, lesbians!” but I’ve heard a lot of guys “That’s just gay!”. Also “most” women seem to find a beautiful naked woman as erotic whereas men wouldn’t say the same about a naked guy. I don’t use “most” to imply that I got this from a representative survey. What I mean is that I’ve never seen any women being upset about it and some admitting that they like it. So I have no reason to assume that “most” would disagree.

  20. Des Said,

    November 11, 2007 @ 3:22 am

    Thanks for your reply.

    I think that the main reason women don’t say “Yuck, lesbians!” (even if they don’t approve and even find it disgusting) is because they’re not afraid of being labelled as one.
    Men, on the other hand, feel the need to protest as loudly as possible (instead of just ignoring it, like women do) , because they feel that if they just ignored it and didn’t protest and grumble as much as possible, their manliness might suffer. (And the neverending “Oh,my eyes! I’ll never be normal again!” gets really irritating after a while.)
    As to whether it’s “most women” or just “some women”..I guess it’s a matter of personal opinion.

    I really apologize for being completely OT.I guess I’ll just shut up.

  21. Ravage Said,

    November 11, 2007 @ 8:15 am

    Hmm, I seem to remember some Ogiue fanservice, but what happened in the rest of the episode is a complete blank to me. ;)

    Seriously, great episode. I didn’t expect them to spend the whole episode on this, seeing the size of these scenes in the manga, but they did.
    I dislike yaoi/shounen-ai in my anime normally, but for 1 ep in a way such as this, is acceptable I guess.
    Studio ARMS also keeps giving us more smut after ep 4. Not too surprising, looking at their track record ofcourse. ;)

  22. loki Said,

    November 19, 2007 @ 10:04 am

    don’t dise yaoi i’m a fangirl too and i will draw yaoi of you people if you dise it i now where you live MUHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA….ok i’m done and i love yaoi so yah i’m with antone who likes it ^_^

  23. HieiDoomCHAN Said,

    November 27, 2007 @ 10:12 am

    YES YAOI!!!! why cant women express their sexuality too???

  24. Ryan M. Said,

    November 28, 2007 @ 7:32 am

    I’m with the girls here. If men can display their love for yuri, why can’t ladies too? That’s just being unfair and selfish. I’m a guy, and I thought this episode was hilarious. It’s not like we men are watching it for the yaoi right? We’re watching it for the humour. If you take it too seriously, then you will be disgusted. I’m all for equal rights.

  25. Kurogane Shiroikaze Said,

    November 28, 2007 @ 9:50 am

    I think you all’ve seriously misunderstand me.

    Just as you girls demand freedom express love for yaoi, guys also have a right to express their disgust for it.

    Here’s a quote I’ve read somewhere a long time before that should prove rather relevant here; “I do not agree with what you are standing up for, but I shall gladly die for the right for you to stand up for it.”

    Think about it.

  26. tj han Said,

    November 28, 2007 @ 1:03 pm

    Hm, after you’ve sat through gay films including the Bishounen HK adaptation, for “academic” reasons, this sort of thing is just funny. The liveaction yaoi is the truly stomach churning one.

  27. Ara Said,

    December 5, 2007 @ 1:24 pm

    Thats sad that you have to make such a big deal about some yaoi.

  28. Ara Said,

    December 8, 2007 @ 4:46 pm

    Also, why should you feel disgust towards it? Because it’s two males? Do you feel disgust for a male and a female? Two females? What is the difference. Protesting loudly about some yaoi makes you seem as if you’re insecure or something. Love is love and no one deserves to have themselves thought of as disgusting for it.

  29. lol_matt Said,

    December 29, 2007 @ 4:23 am

    The scary thing is, there are actually yaoi fangirls at my school who imagine relationships between the guys at our school. My friend’s favorite pairing is Keefe x Skyler LOLZ

  30. lol_matt Said,

    January 4, 2008 @ 1:50 pm

    But seriously, I have to agree with the girls and Dumbo on this one. I don’t think there is any problem with guys expressing their love for yaoi or girls for yuri. You should meet some of the guys I know who actually ask my friends for her yaoi manga.


  31. Lol_Mello Said,

    January 5, 2008 @ 6:14 am

    First order of business- I think a high five with my fellow fujoshi lol_Matt is needed. Keefe x Skyler is pure FTW.

    But on to more important things. Yaoi is good, but when you start to ‘ship’ people you know, things get weird. I should know. Generally, if I write a yaoi story, I never picture the characters first off. It is usually based around the two boys I have mentioned before. There is no problem with saying that two people would look cute as a couple.

    But if it gets to the point where you only see the person as the glorified, yaoi-tized, seme/uke you’ve made up in your mind, that is a problem.

    I suppose I shouldn’t be casting stones here, but Real-Person Shippers need to know when it stops being funny and when it starts being disturbing. Unlike anyone in Genshiken, I don’t sit around and write epic stories about guys I know getting it on. I use them as a springboard for ideas, yes, but that’s only for the INITIAL part of the creative process.

    (But yaoi about Doug is perfectly acceptable. :P )

  32. Haesslich Said,

    January 5, 2008 @ 12:26 pm

    Kurogane: I come bearing gifts:

    Shana- I mean, Nagi meets melonpan.

  33. Haesslich Said,

    January 5, 2008 @ 12:27 pm

    This went in the wrong window. I was aiming for your Shana II Ep 12 post…

  34. Kurogane Shiroikaze Said,

    January 5, 2008 @ 12:31 pm

    Haesslich, wow, nice miss…

    And for the “lol_*” commenters, I think you guys are going waaaaaaaaay out of topic.

  35. Haesslich Said,

    January 5, 2008 @ 12:51 pm

    Kurogane: Watch Hayate 37. Now. Not just for the melonpan-eating.

  36. lol_matt Said,

    January 7, 2008 @ 1:28 pm


    I meant that in the most non-offensive/flying-kick-to-the-face way Kurogane-san…

  37. qa99 Said,

    March 4, 2008 @ 4:10 pm

    ::sigh:: IT WAS A PARODY OF YAOI MANGA. It didn’t “go too far.” That’s exactly how they are. I laughed my ass off. I don’t see why some of you are freaking out. Gosh. I thought it was going to be really explicit. You guys are overdramatic.

  38. martin Said,

    May 28, 2008 @ 10:14 pm

    Hehe, this was one of the most hillarious episode I’ve ever seen :-D I laughed almost all the time throught the episode. There’s definitely nothing wrong with this kind of yaoi stuff in this show… After this episode I start loving ogi-chan even more than after reading the manga :-D

  39. Jore Said,

    August 20, 2008 @ 9:33 pm

    The supposed inner working of a fangirl effectively disturb me

  40. Fall 08 part 2 « Moe for moe? Said,

    October 15, 2008 @ 1:48 am

    […] to think I’m hard to satisfy and the only thing that cracks me up is perverted jokes and yaoi-ish daydreams…I hope that’s not the case […]

  41. TBB Said,

    February 10, 2009 @ 12:49 am

    What Ep is that?

  42. Kiwi Bird Said,

    March 25, 2009 @ 1:29 am

    Wow. This thread seems to have drawn quite a bit of discussion. Let me say first that I sort of randomly stumbled on this site because I Google’d Ogiue (my favorite character from Genshiken).

    And, as a woman who enjoys boys’ love, I have to say that I did NOT enjoy the yaoi scenes in Genshiken. I’m pretty picky about my boys’ love stories, and I don’t like power differentials (stories where one guy is really wimpy or weepy and the other is cruel and cold).

    (I thought the manga handled the yaoi aspect with much more taste.)

    So, the yaoi portrayed didn’t speak to my inner fangirl. But, I do know that some people prefer yaoi similar to the stuff that appeared in the Genshiken episode. *shrug* To each her own, I guess.

    And, for what it’s worth, I’m not generally bothered by girl-girl stuff, but I don’t seek it out and generally prefer it not to be explicit. So, I respect guys who feel the same way about guy-guy stuff.

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    January 23, 2010 @ 3:06 pm

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    July 20, 2010 @ 12:48 pm

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  45. asa Said,

    July 22, 2010 @ 6:10 am

    I love YAOI!!!!
    YAOI Excellent

  46. karakuri Said,

    December 7, 2010 @ 12:07 am

    Ooh, thanks for letting me know, am gonna watch it now! =D

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