Gundam 00 05

Holy shit. Is it me or did Gundam 00 almost turn in to a Super Robot show?

This episode, Kyrios managed to output enough propulsion to slow down the descent of the Gravity Block thing, which I would estimate is around at least 300x the size of it and not to mention an exponentially larger mass than it. That’s like, already Super Robot-level feat. Reminded me of Top wo Nerae! 2 02 where Dix-Neuf went to rescue a crippled battleship from planetfall. That was still within bounds of reason. This is beyond belief.

If that wasn’t badass enough, Dynames managed to cleanly shoot off the other two sections of the Gravity Block parts. From the ground. From 10,000km’s away. Like. Wow. Like. Unbelievable. Like. What the fuck?! BTW, his scene soooo reminded me of Evangelion.

Looks like Gundam 00 is going to be more interestingly memorable that I expected it to be.

P.S. Pink mobile suits look damn ghey. And next time, equip any mobile suit just going for a field test, with HARMLESS PAINTBALLS. Okay, yes they did equip the Tieran Taozi with paint bullets, but it seems they do explode with quite some force to DISLODGE the Gravity Block. Maybe someone skimped materials during the construction.

12 Comments

  1. meganeshounen Said,

    November 6, 2007 @ 8:58 pm

    “And next time, equip any mobile suit just going for a field test, with HARMLESS PAINTBALLS. Okay, yes they did equip the Tieran Taozi with paint bullets, but it seems they do explode with quite some force to DISLODGE the Gravity Block. Maybe someone skimped materials during the construction.”

    Waitwaitwait, does this correspond to the “China is producing faulty products” rumor in RL? Whaaaaat?

  2. sadakups Said,

    November 6, 2007 @ 9:17 pm

    You sure have a way with words, Kurogane. Paint bullets FTW. ^_^

  3. NC Said,

    November 6, 2007 @ 9:17 pm

    This is all in reason for a Gundam Real Robot Show… if you take into account that Alle is a New Type on the level of Amuro and Char. Sure it’s a far fetched thing, but it would explain how the hell he did this feat. Along with we can assume that the Gundam are equipped with Psychommus thus enhancing their capabilities. Though being a New Type would explain why those two had a little psychotic episode when they become in close proximity with each other… hell they even had a New Type Flash (though a bit different from the classic one).

    Of course this will all be lost if you never watched Char’s Counterattack.

    As for Lockon’s orbital shot, I don’t see that as unbelievable, I mean he’s basically charging everything his weapons (and probably everything) output into those shots and even then he’s getting assistance from the most useful Haro ever which does most of the Calculations, Energy Management and Corrections while Lockon shoots. In fact if I remember correctly, Lockon even gave the piloting controls to Haro for a time during Episode 4 while he shot at Taribia’s Forces. Now don’t get me wrong, I said shooting into Orbit wasn’t unbelievable. Now the clean precision of his shots, THAT’S nearly unbelievable. That is unless his Haro has Extreme Hacks which give it ultimate precision.

    And finally, Paint Rounds and worst pain job ever… those have got to be the heaviest and most destructive Paint Rounds I ever saw. Then again, last time I saw Paint Rounds was in Stardust Memory… and last time I saw a Pink Mobile Suit was in… Yeah I’ll leave it at that.

  4. Avisch Said,

    November 7, 2007 @ 6:25 am

    I thought this was a awesome episode.

    “And next time, equip any mobile suit just going for a field test, with HARMLESS PAINTBALLS. ”

    DAMN right.

    meganeshounen:
    I think it would mean more that “India, Russia AND China” screwed up. LOL

    When I saw Dynames with the huge orbital gun I went
    “HOLY SH**”
    It makes positron cannon look like a pistol.

  5. anonymous Said,

    November 7, 2007 @ 5:39 pm

    I thought Kyrios was pushing the blocks to speed them up, not stop them. Still a difficult feat but probably not as difficult as pushing it in the other direction.

  6. NC Said,

    November 7, 2007 @ 5:52 pm

    @anonymous

    It’s still a Mobile Suit many times smaller then the block in size. It was trying to change the direction of something that was already trapped in Earth Gravity. It may not “look” difficult, but you have to remember this is a Mobile Suit which thrust shouldn’t be able to do as much as it did. If a Mobile Suit could do that normally then the Commander’s unit that was there should have sufficed. It obviously didn’t. These Gundam’s were nearing a level of low powered Supers or G Gundam Real. This episode shows how much we don’t know about these Gundam’s power sources as well. They’re able to output way more energy then anything we’ve seen lately. Especially since it’s not Nuclear Powered. From what we do know…

    The Gundams are the Fuel Source for the Celestial Being’s mobile HQ
    The Gundams emit a unique form of Energy which is both propulsion and jamming that works in both Air, Space, Water. These same particles can double as heat shielding.
    The Energy powers everything on the Gundams and are near limitless as we know.
    The Energy output for this is Huge. Enough to have a unit shoot into orbit and push a Gravity Block out of Orbit.

    … Though seriously, if you think about these things like Psychommus powered by the pilots, they’re not too unreasonable in their power. Look at Amuro in Char’s Counterattack as a pretty good example… again this is lost if you’ve never seen it.

  7. Heero Yuy Said,

    November 8, 2007 @ 2:30 am

    Being as bored as I am and having had numerous physics classes for my engineering major, I’m going to say in short that both feats were total BS.

    First off, assume a gundam weighs 20 tons (a very reasonable weight considering how much is packed into it and it’s 60ft tall or so). Just to walk at a brisk pace (6ft/sec for a normal human), multiply the 6 by 10 since a gundam is roughly 60ft tall and a human can be about 6ft tall. So 60ft/s converted to meters (18.288) multiplied by 20 tons converted to kilograms (18143.69kg) equals to about 331811.8 Joules of force. Convert that to Watts by dividing by 1 second (since that’s how much power it would take to move 60ft/s for one second), and you get somewhere around 3 MEGAwatts. Now, for a specially designed fuel cell system or a small nuclear reactor, that would be possible, but now multiply that times even 100 (since the space block is at least that many times larger than the gundam) and you get 300MW.

    That’s how much power it would take to push the block 60ft/sec ignoring the engine’s efficiency rating (there’s no way it would be even 90% efficient at that level) and numerous other factors. Even 300MW is completely impossible for something the size of a small apartment (generation IV nuclear reactors are only estimated to give off 300MW tops and they’re the size of a city block!). Finally, the amount of electricity you’d have to send through a wire from the power source to whatever uses electricity to make thrust, you’d need a cable that could take 600Amps of electricity that would be burning hotter than hell.

    Don’t even get me started on the impossibility of Lockon’s shot though. Even if he had the power (at least his had an external power source to help…), he’s still ignoring the earth’s magnetic field’s affects on the round and unpredictable wind resistance changes, pressure changes, etc. I could go on, but I’m not bored anymore so I think I’ll stop :D

  8. Kaisos Said,

    November 8, 2007 @ 5:01 am

    @Heero Yuy

    Maybe you should recite the MST3K Mantra.

  9. NC Said,

    November 8, 2007 @ 8:47 am

    “If you’re wondering how he eats and breathes And other science facts Then repeat to yourself ‘It’s just a show, I should really just relax.’”

    Or you could be like me and just apply that it’s a Gundam Real Robot show and it has Pseudo Real Physics where there is something there that will alter our physics. Especially if it involves units blessed with the name “Gundam”.

    Either way they both apply and help alter physics enough to make some amazing feats. This doesn’t stop us though from discussing how, why and complexity.

  10. Orange-kun Said,

    November 8, 2007 @ 10:26 pm

    @Heero yuy: You are forgeting that the round is pure energy. Even if some of it is dispersed by the magnetic field, jusdging from the amount of juice packed into one shot, there should be enough left even after factoring in the amount loss through dispersion.

    And you are forgeting that at a height of 10 00 meters, the resultant gravity that acts on the space ship would be lesser, and the resulting force required to move it would be lesser too.

  11. yanipheonu Said,

    November 9, 2007 @ 5:37 am

    Wanna bet the Gundams are powered by:

    a) The Pilot’s Heart or Will or something like that.
    b) The Celestial Being, whatever that is alluding to. Gundams powered by GOD?

    I have a feeling…

  12. Heero Yuy Said,

    November 9, 2007 @ 9:39 pm

    Hahaha, I’m glad you guys got some fun out of my computations!

    To be perfectly honest, I really didn’t care about the math, I was just doing it for fun since I was really desperate to get away from my calculus homework any way I could. I know it’s a show, more accurately a Gundam show, where stuff just has futuristic tech that we can’t even comprehend so it probably wouldn’t be totally impossible. Besides, even if it is impossible, it was still amusing to watch.

    @Orange-kun: although I’m happy that someone tried to respond to my comment in a physics way, you’re implication that less gravity equals less force needed to push it is incorrect. Mass is what matters when using force on an object, and mass is constant, even if weight isn’t. Mass tells you how much force something will need to exert to move an object at any speed, especially in space, so the lesser gravity really doesn’t affect my calculations at all.

    As for the ‘pure energy’ round concept, even if that were possible with charged ions, that would only mean that they’d be affected MORE by the earth’s magnetic field, since it would have a higher level of magnetic charge and thus it would be even less accurate than a solid round.

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