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		<title>By: Woruta</title>
		<link>http://kurogane.animeblogger.net/2006/06/26/canvas2-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-96723</link>
		<dc:creator>Woruta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think there was more information / background story that emphasized Kiri but you can speculate a bit why he stil ended up with Elis.
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Why Kiri and not Elis ?

 because in the episode where he was in shock seeing Yanagi with Kiri in tokyo and saying he will never paint again, laying on the floor in tears with brushes and paints in front of a canvas. (the reason obviously is being Kiri and maybe another feeling of backstabbing by Yanagi.


reasons that Kiri didnt end up with Hiroki could be :

Elis overcomes her trauma of red for her love for Hiroki.

Hiroki overcomes his trauma or shock rather and paints again for Elis, this is something that Kiri did for him in the passed, but cant do for him in the present (she sorta realized this  when she falls in tears at the trains seeing him with that painting in his arms...she says something like i guess we will be back to being only friends.

all in all Yanagi was secretly in love with kiri, Hiroki was certainly in love with Kiri.
Hiroki was an indesicive idiot who didnt want to ruin their friendship 
and Yanagi abused this goody act of Hiroki (sneaking out of the tent, stealing his picture idea and saying that he would never let Hiroki have Kiri)

of course Hiroki knew Yanagi liked Kiri (he saw him sneaking out of the tent) 
atleast Yanagi was dishonest in getting his way but was honest about his feelings for Kiri, hiroki kept it all for himself wanting to keep the peace with the three of them. that is how it felt for me

but the ending passed ,although i stil think Hiroki is an indesicive jerk hurting feelings of people left and right because of his ignorance and walking the path of no conflict. spaced out...escaping reality ?

in the end he finally made up his mind and he decides to hurt Kiri in the process AGAIN, the first time he was in shock because of his insecurity he created a reality that wasnt even true (yanagi with hiroki in tokyo) and draws his conclusions again (like he did in the classroom and when yanagi sneaks out of the tent) 

he meets up with her again goes all snuggly and happy with Kiri for the whole show and then bam dumps Kiri , lets go Elis on the last episode :) nice Twister ....

Hiroki is a nice guy ? ma ne..so so 

like elis says he spaces out. 
he is absent in his own world a little too much for my taste (paranoia?)

 ... he doesnt see the truth for whatever reason for the entire show regarding his feelings towards Kiri i think...

 Elis therefor was a surprise, although he seemed to care for her as a brother a lot which was nice.... although that kindness was shot down in the last episode 

this twist of the the once conciderate tapping on the head when she confesses to him for the first time where he shows no emotion towards a mutual feeling whatsoever and complete 360 indecent relationship ending...

well indecent to the eye of the beholder , they do indeed love eachother but  for me they should have stayed a family.

i feel sad for Kiri, i hope she finds a kind man in the ova if there is going to be one, hell she could even end up with Yanagi, atleast that jerk loved her lots and was honest to himself about that.

anyways wall of text lots of opinion based on my personal experience watching the show, i really enjoyed it for the most part, the ending was still nice preferences aside. 
Kiri forever :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think there was more information / background story that emphasized Kiri but you can speculate a bit why he stil ended up with Elis.<br />
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Why Kiri and not Elis ?</p>
<p> because in the episode where he was in shock seeing Yanagi with Kiri in tokyo and saying he will never paint again, laying on the floor in tears with brushes and paints in front of a canvas. (the reason obviously is being Kiri and maybe another feeling of backstabbing by Yanagi.</p>
<p>reasons that Kiri didnt end up with Hiroki could be :</p>
<p>Elis overcomes her trauma of red for her love for Hiroki.</p>
<p>Hiroki overcomes his trauma or shock rather and paints again for Elis, this is something that Kiri did for him in the passed, but cant do for him in the present (she sorta realized this  when she falls in tears at the trains seeing him with that painting in his arms&#8230;she says something like i guess we will be back to being only friends.</p>
<p>all in all Yanagi was secretly in love with kiri, Hiroki was certainly in love with Kiri.<br />
Hiroki was an indesicive idiot who didnt want to ruin their friendship<br />
and Yanagi abused this goody act of Hiroki (sneaking out of the tent, stealing his picture idea and saying that he would never let Hiroki have Kiri)</p>
<p>of course Hiroki knew Yanagi liked Kiri (he saw him sneaking out of the tent)<br />
atleast Yanagi was dishonest in getting his way but was honest about his feelings for Kiri, hiroki kept it all for himself wanting to keep the peace with the three of them. that is how it felt for me</p>
<p>but the ending passed ,although i stil think Hiroki is an indesicive jerk hurting feelings of people left and right because of his ignorance and walking the path of no conflict. spaced out&#8230;escaping reality ?</p>
<p>in the end he finally made up his mind and he decides to hurt Kiri in the process AGAIN, the first time he was in shock because of his insecurity he created a reality that wasnt even true (yanagi with hiroki in tokyo) and draws his conclusions again (like he did in the classroom and when yanagi sneaks out of the tent) </p>
<p>he meets up with her again goes all snuggly and happy with Kiri for the whole show and then bam dumps Kiri , lets go Elis on the last episode :) nice Twister &#8230;.</p>
<p>Hiroki is a nice guy ? ma ne..so so </p>
<p>like elis says he spaces out.<br />
he is absent in his own world a little too much for my taste (paranoia?)</p>
<p> &#8230; he doesnt see the truth for whatever reason for the entire show regarding his feelings towards Kiri i think&#8230;</p>
<p> Elis therefor was a surprise, although he seemed to care for her as a brother a lot which was nice&#8230;. although that kindness was shot down in the last episode </p>
<p>this twist of the the once conciderate tapping on the head when she confesses to him for the first time where he shows no emotion towards a mutual feeling whatsoever and complete 360 indecent relationship ending&#8230;</p>
<p>well indecent to the eye of the beholder , they do indeed love eachother but  for me they should have stayed a family.</p>
<p>i feel sad for Kiri, i hope she finds a kind man in the ova if there is going to be one, hell she could even end up with Yanagi, atleast that jerk loved her lots and was honest to himself about that.</p>
<p>anyways wall of text lots of opinion based on my personal experience watching the show, i really enjoyed it for the most part, the ending was still nice preferences aside.<br />
Kiri forever :)</p>
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		<title>By: dl</title>
		<link>http://kurogane.animeblogger.net/2006/06/26/canvas2-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-94765</link>
		<dc:creator>dl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only one who thinks that the Elis x Hiroki relationship was so VERY wrong? They&#039;re meant to be cousins and aside to that fact they had a brother and sister relationship for most of their lives!

The ending was unvbelievely brutal to watch (regardless of whom you liked most out of the two females) especially when the Kiri x Hiroki relationship was built up so much to that point...

I vote the ending down :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one who thinks that the Elis x Hiroki relationship was so VERY wrong? They&#8217;re meant to be cousins and aside to that fact they had a brother and sister relationship for most of their lives!</p>
<p>The ending was unvbelievely brutal to watch (regardless of whom you liked most out of the two females) especially when the Kiri x Hiroki relationship was built up so much to that point&#8230;</p>
<p>I vote the ending down :/</p>
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		<title>By: i</title>
		<link>http://kurogane.animeblogger.net/2006/06/26/canvas2-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-87808</link>
		<dc:creator>i</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>me again...anyway...i just kept thinking about it again...but hiroki seems to have secong thoughts about elis&#039; feeling...tapos biglang ganon.....i cried in the ending for the thought na parang back to square 1 lahat it&#039;s like none of the past events didn&#039;t matter at all at any extent...arggghhh..haha..maybe i&#039;m just irritated that hiroki seems to feel so sure at first then it ended up like that...
baka..baka..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>me again&#8230;anyway&#8230;i just kept thinking about it again&#8230;but hiroki seems to have secong thoughts about elis&#8217; feeling&#8230;tapos biglang ganon&#8230;..i cried in the ending for the thought na parang back to square 1 lahat it&#8217;s like none of the past events didn&#8217;t matter at all at any extent&#8230;arggghhh..haha..maybe i&#8217;m just irritated that hiroki seems to feel so sure at first then it ended up like that&#8230;<br />
baka..baka..</p>
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		<title>By: i</title>
		<link>http://kurogane.animeblogger.net/2006/06/26/canvas2-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-87806</link>
		<dc:creator>i</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh my...it&#039;s not the ending that i somehow rebuke....it&#039;s the flow of events compared to the ending....was it right to overly emphasize and build up the importance of one girl over the other and in the end unmindingly and suddenly break it all apart in the end....so much for a 180 degrees diversion of love there...grabe men,...biglaan naman...i wonder if it was realistic....the flow of events didn&#039;t somehow show any second thoughts about hiroki&#039;s feeling for elis...it makes his change of heart doubtful..even if i tried to watch it again..just the same.. it seems to lack something to have that kind of ending quite acceptable...but..i somehow like some parts...still fun to watch...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh my&#8230;it&#8217;s not the ending that i somehow rebuke&#8230;.it&#8217;s the flow of events compared to the ending&#8230;.was it right to overly emphasize and build up the importance of one girl over the other and in the end unmindingly and suddenly break it all apart in the end&#8230;.so much for a 180 degrees diversion of love there&#8230;grabe men,&#8230;biglaan naman&#8230;i wonder if it was realistic&#8230;.the flow of events didn&#8217;t somehow show any second thoughts about hiroki&#8217;s feeling for elis&#8230;it makes his change of heart doubtful..even if i tried to watch it again..just the same.. it seems to lack something to have that kind of ending quite acceptable&#8230;but..i somehow like some parts&#8230;still fun to watch&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zecki</title>
		<link>http://kurogane.animeblogger.net/2006/06/26/canvas2-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-81317</link>
		<dc:creator>Zecki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 03:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree..My god..that was like a horrible ending! So crappy! I mean seriously, the KiriXHiroki thing was like planned out. They were meant to be together. it was DESTINY!! but nooo, at the end, the VERY end, it had to be twisted and it turned into ElisXHiroki? What happened?! HUH?? IM GONNA GO SUE THOSE DAMN PRODUCERS! What happened to all the other characters? Heh? What happened to poor Kiri? Did hiroki just throw her in the garbage? What about mr. clay boy? Poooor Kiri!! I HATE YOU ELIS!! But i hate hiroki more now..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree..My god..that was like a horrible ending! So crappy! I mean seriously, the KiriXHiroki thing was like planned out. They were meant to be together. it was DESTINY!! but nooo, at the end, the VERY end, it had to be twisted and it turned into ElisXHiroki? What happened?! HUH?? IM GONNA GO SUE THOSE DAMN PRODUCERS! What happened to all the other characters? Heh? What happened to poor Kiri? Did hiroki just throw her in the garbage? What about mr. clay boy? Poooor Kiri!! I HATE YOU ELIS!! But i hate hiroki more now..</p>
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		<title>By: donsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>donsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 01:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>amp i hate the endin of canvast wtf.......!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amp i hate the endin of canvast wtf&#8230;&#8230;.!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Aren D.</title>
		<link>http://kurogane.animeblogger.net/2006/06/26/canvas2-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-64159</link>
		<dc:creator>Aren D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 10:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... Maybe Hiroki loved Elis all the time, even since they was kids, but wasn&#039;t honest with himself and make illusion that he likes Kiri. There is very few hints in whole series, but if you sit down and rethink everything careful, you might find them.

But still.. ending kinda sucks. I really feel bad for Kiri =( , Hiroki completely  ruined her Cristmas ( i would like meeting Shin-chan and Kiri in hotel after she talks with Hiroki)

Tomoko&#039;s dying... hem.... WTF??? what the hell that girl doing here in first place? She has weak health, thats enough, why put in unnecessary death scene? What will happened if she die? She has strong connection with Elis mostly, she had something in beginning with Hiroki, but that was forgotten.

I have feeling that Canvas 2 was made in a hurry, many things are missing or forgotten or unnecessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; Maybe Hiroki loved Elis all the time, even since they was kids, but wasn&#8217;t honest with himself and make illusion that he likes Kiri. There is very few hints in whole series, but if you sit down and rethink everything careful, you might find them.</p>
<p>But still.. ending kinda sucks. I really feel bad for Kiri =( , Hiroki completely  ruined her Cristmas ( i would like meeting Shin-chan and Kiri in hotel after she talks with Hiroki)</p>
<p>Tomoko&#8217;s dying&#8230; hem&#8230;. WTF??? what the hell that girl doing here in first place? She has weak health, thats enough, why put in unnecessary death scene? What will happened if she die? She has strong connection with Elis mostly, she had something in beginning with Hiroki, but that was forgotten.</p>
<p>I have feeling that Canvas 2 was made in a hurry, many things are missing or forgotten or unnecessary.</p>
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		<title>By: rei</title>
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		<dc:creator>rei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 12:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kas
&quot;And she didnt get mad at him or anything&quot;
- she DID get mad...when Hiroki talk nothing else except about work, food &amp; TV shows.

&quot;She’s not an obsessive character like Elis. &quot;
-she IS an obssessive character. Always went on &quot;Hiroki this, Hiroki that...&quot; in front of Shin-chan. It&#039;s pretty DAMN annoying 

&quot;Once she knows whats happening she will obviously try to fix it and apologize not like that stuborn brat Elis. &quot;
-she was supposed to apologize to Elis NOT to Hiroki. Elis is the one who got hurt mentally by her.

And it seems that you forget, Elis is the one who told Hiroki to date Kiri in ep. 23. She even left the house early in ep. 24 so that Hiroki can be with Kiri. Yes, Elis did re-confessed on the phone. But if Hiroki DOES have STRONG feeling for Kiri, he wouldn&#039;t have to go after Elis. Since he choose Elis over Kiri, this proved that Elis is more significant to his life than Kiri.

&quot;The past is in the past…&quot;
-LOL. As you said, the past is the past. Hiroki decided to forget his past love with Kiri &amp; move on with Elis, the one who always support his REAL dream of becoming an artist &amp; the one who release him from keep on becoming the prisoner of the past. 

Kiri should have just forget about her past relationship with Hiroki &amp; move on with Shin-chan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kas<br />
&#8220;And she didnt get mad at him or anything&#8221;<br />
- she DID get mad&#8230;when Hiroki talk nothing else except about work, food &amp; TV shows.</p>
<p>&#8220;She’s not an obsessive character like Elis. &#8221;<br />
-she IS an obssessive character. Always went on &#8220;Hiroki this, Hiroki that&#8230;&#8221; in front of Shin-chan. It&#8217;s pretty DAMN annoying </p>
<p>&#8220;Once she knows whats happening she will obviously try to fix it and apologize not like that stuborn brat Elis. &#8221;<br />
-she was supposed to apologize to Elis NOT to Hiroki. Elis is the one who got hurt mentally by her.</p>
<p>And it seems that you forget, Elis is the one who told Hiroki to date Kiri in ep. 23. She even left the house early in ep. 24 so that Hiroki can be with Kiri. Yes, Elis did re-confessed on the phone. But if Hiroki DOES have STRONG feeling for Kiri, he wouldn&#8217;t have to go after Elis. Since he choose Elis over Kiri, this proved that Elis is more significant to his life than Kiri.</p>
<p>&#8220;The past is in the past…&#8221;<br />
-LOL. As you said, the past is the past. Hiroki decided to forget his past love with Kiri &amp; move on with Elis, the one who always support his REAL dream of becoming an artist &amp; the one who release him from keep on becoming the prisoner of the past. </p>
<p>Kiri should have just forget about her past relationship with Hiroki &amp; move on with Shin-chan.</p>
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		<title>By: Kas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 23:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I cant believe that the guy picked his own Cousin which he treats as a little sister over his childhood friend that confessed to him! The ending really went all the way to rock bottom for me. The show was okay as well it wasnt that great when I found out that it was kinda like a Da Capo anime. Which obviously ends up with the brother ending up with his sister. I mean do you know how sick that sounds?! Honestly...Once I saw the very ending of Canvas after the credits..I thought I was honestly going to puke! That should not be the ending! I mean honsetly they screwed it up sooooo much its not even funny.
It was leaning to a Kiri relationship and all of a sudden boom! The thing goes to rotate 180 degrees...I can&#039;t stand it when they do that! A perfectly good anime with good graphis and the ending totally ruined it AS IN RUINED IT COMPLETLEY!!!!
Augh......I wanted to throw something at the guy so he&#039;ll wake up! and not pick Elis.
And with Elis, I felt like I was going to wack her with a frying pan or something really hard like a mallet or somethin.
I dont know about you guys but I think Kiri should have accepted Shin-chan&#039;s confession since the guy was going to pick Elis anyways.
And Shin-chan seemed fairly decent anyways.
I never really hated the guy, cause I understood how he felt since I also am a fellow artist (not professionaly but you get the idea). Augh...Know what they should have a Canvas3 and now Kiri should dump the guy.
I mean she confessed twice and she kept on getting dumped all the time!
And she didnt get mad at him or anything, Thats why I like Kiri the best in the anime. She&#039;s not an obsessive character like Elis. Once she knows whats happening she will obviously try to fix it and apologize not like that stuborn brat Elis. Even though her past was a little sad its not like she was gonna die tomorrow or something geez. The past is in the past...
Ok I&#039;ve been rumbling on for quite some time now..
But I really did like this series but I ABSOULUTLEY HATED THE ENDING!
If anyone else feels the same way I do let your vooice be heard! n-n</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I cant believe that the guy picked his own Cousin which he treats as a little sister over his childhood friend that confessed to him! The ending really went all the way to rock bottom for me. The show was okay as well it wasnt that great when I found out that it was kinda like a Da Capo anime. Which obviously ends up with the brother ending up with his sister. I mean do you know how sick that sounds?! Honestly&#8230;Once I saw the very ending of Canvas after the credits..I thought I was honestly going to puke! That should not be the ending! I mean honsetly they screwed it up sooooo much its not even funny.<br />
It was leaning to a Kiri relationship and all of a sudden boom! The thing goes to rotate 180 degrees&#8230;I can&#8217;t stand it when they do that! A perfectly good anime with good graphis and the ending totally ruined it AS IN RUINED IT COMPLETLEY!!!!<br />
Augh&#8230;&#8230;I wanted to throw something at the guy so he&#8217;ll wake up! and not pick Elis.<br />
And with Elis, I felt like I was going to wack her with a frying pan or something really hard like a mallet or somethin.<br />
I dont know about you guys but I think Kiri should have accepted Shin-chan&#8217;s confession since the guy was going to pick Elis anyways.<br />
And Shin-chan seemed fairly decent anyways.<br />
I never really hated the guy, cause I understood how he felt since I also am a fellow artist (not professionaly but you get the idea). Augh&#8230;Know what they should have a Canvas3 and now Kiri should dump the guy.<br />
I mean she confessed twice and she kept on getting dumped all the time!<br />
And she didnt get mad at him or anything, Thats why I like Kiri the best in the anime. She&#8217;s not an obsessive character like Elis. Once she knows whats happening she will obviously try to fix it and apologize not like that stuborn brat Elis. Even though her past was a little sad its not like she was gonna die tomorrow or something geez. The past is in the past&#8230;<br />
Ok I&#8217;ve been rumbling on for quite some time now..<br />
But I really did like this series but I ABSOULUTLEY HATED THE ENDING!<br />
If anyone else feels the same way I do let your vooice be heard! n-n</p>
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		<title>By: isa231</title>
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		<dc:creator>isa231</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>even after watching the ending 2x and reading these posts i still think the ending of canvas 2 stinks.
yeah tomoko wakes up but we dont know how she is and the elis x hiroki is wrong(for an anime(even for an h-game)) unexpexted and @#RR#%T!@#$
got nothing i can write.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>even after watching the ending 2x and reading these posts i still think the ending of canvas 2 stinks.<br />
yeah tomoko wakes up but we dont know how she is and the elis x hiroki is wrong(for an anime(even for an h-game)) unexpexted and @#RR#%T!@#$<br />
got nothing i can write.</p>
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